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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 09:58 AM
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wacky Air Filter idea....

http://www.cleanstream.com/filters_wetdry.html

Use a Gore Clean Stream as an air filter????
Does it flow enough?

Just curious...

Im going to ASSUME that it does not flow enough or Gore would already be doing this for automotive applications....
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 10:03 AM
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you could try it and share your results
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 10:09 AM
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Interesting and innovative thinking... You would have to confirm the flow and the filtration, but it's an interesting idea.
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 10:30 AM
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That filtration comparison using the pink dust was pretty impressive. Nothing made it through the cleanstream.

Like WATRD said, they need to compare flow on that same test set up.

Erich
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 10:42 AM
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engine air flow rates

http://www.ajdesigner.com/phpengine/..._flow_rate.php

cc to cid

http://www.4lo.com/calc/literstocid.htm

2.4L =~ 146CID

VE

http://www.installuniversity.com/ins...n_9.012000.htm

use .75 as a baseline

CID = 146
RPM = 5600
VE = .75
>> CFM ~ 180 ft^3 / minute


Shop vacs seem to be rated on "peak" HP and not SCFM...

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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 11:14 AM
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for those of us that are lazy and dont want to put in any effort for at least another hour or two(just got off work) hows the comparison of flow match up from the stock airbox to the actaully pretty good idea uve come up with?
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 11:25 AM
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Dijlop - I dunno - cant find what the flow rate of the shop vac might be so I cant tell uif there is enough filtration to support the engine...
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 11:29 AM
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so what ur saying is that ur not sure if the filter will actually filter enough with the added sucking power of the engine over the shop vac?

or r u saying that the filter wont let enough air in to comply to the sucking power of the engine over the vac?

basically, r u not sure if enough air will get in, or if too much junk will get in?

y couldnt i compress that all in the first place? im not sure.
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 01:57 PM
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i would think if anything it wouldnt let enough air in. i would think filtration isnt the issue because it clames to filter down to .3 microns and people are driving around all day with k&n which goes for flow over filtration
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 02:23 PM
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lol. true. i still like the idea k&n has though. the oil. stick ur hand in a pile of feathers. now get ur hand wet and stick it in a pile of feathers. thats the k&n difference.
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 05:51 PM
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very true, but the oil can dry out if not oiled often enough but o well i still use them
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 05:53 PM
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My guess is it wont flow enough..
Sent an email off to Gore (filtration division)....
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 06:01 PM
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lol. good idea. go straight to the source. msot deff have to keep them oiled. speaking of which i should proally clean mine and re-oil. another 10 bucks down the drain. oiy.
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 06:18 PM
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it makes no sence they give you a big bottle of cleaner and a tiny bottle of oil... o well
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 06:20 PM
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cause the oils real strong. hehehe. that was meant to be said with one of those old man on a commercial imitation that u see in the movies accents. yea.
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Old Jun 5, 2007 | 12:50 AM
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Originally Posted by dijlop
lol. true. i still like the idea k&n has though. the oil. stick ur hand in a pile of feathers. now get ur hand wet and stick it in a pile of feathers. thats the k&n difference.

To make that a fair comparison you'd have to have holes in your hand big enough to let some of the feathers through...

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Old Jun 5, 2007 | 06:34 AM
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To make that a fair comparison you'd have to have holes in your hand big enough to let some of the feathers through...
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA, freakin helarious.
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Old Jun 5, 2007 | 07:16 AM
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Have you guys ever heard of No-toil? It is a company that makes air filters and air filter maint. chemicals for dirt bikes.
I've used their products and they're great. They make a filter oil that is water proof and that can't be removed by anything except their cleaner.
I've been toying with the Idea of running an airfilter setup with their product.
The stuff really works... There cleaner makes the stuff come right off too.
This might be something you guys would be interested in.
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Old Jun 5, 2007 | 07:37 AM
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also sounds very viable...again, Im assuming the flow would be sufficient, but I know nothing about dirtbikes, but surely they dont flow the same air as a 3.4?
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