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W56 Trans Rebuild In Progress-question

Old Jul 8, 2006 | 01:13 PM
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Question W56 Trans Rebuild In Progress-question

Okay so I have this thing back together except for the shift fork shafts and I am fitting them now. HOWEVER, I seem to have run up onto a memory loss and no photo issue about re-assy of the no 3 & 4 fork shafts, specifically the reverse shift head that slides onto the no. 3 fork shaft and also rides on the no.4 shaft.

The question to anyone who has recently worked on this type transmission is:
Did toyota really put a small diameter pin into that rather large hole in the reverse shift head? My notes made during disassembly specifially says that I took a small diam pin out of that location, but man the hole in the shift head is the same size as the other interlock detent pins and even shares the same part number id in the parts manual except for the data after the dash. Kinda of a weird setup, the pin rattles around in that hole like a pea in trash can.

Like I said, the manual, the FSM and my notes all seem to say that this is the case, but boy it sure just don't look right. Otherwise, everything is going together swimmingly. Thanks for the input,

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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 02:51 PM
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UPDATE: So it would appear the small pin goes into the small hole on No. 2 shaft and the short interlock pin goes into the reverse shift head. Gotta quit spilling coffee, beer and cokes on my written notes. Makes them hard to read and cipher out what I really meant.

Hope this works, everything moves okay right now, next comes the cases.
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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 03:09 PM
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Okay, so now I find the instruction in the fsm and read it for the 8th time and suddenly realize its talking about the shaft not the intermeadiate plate and tells where to stick the no. 2 interlock pin and now I don't have to take it all back apart. Need nuther beer to celebrate. Have a great day and remember, I did this under a full moon.

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Old Jul 12, 2006 | 07:47 PM
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Sounds like it's coming along pretty good Let us know how it works out.
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Old Jul 12, 2006 | 08:35 PM
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Thanks for the information. I needed to know some of that for my personal use

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Old Aug 29, 2006 | 12:38 PM
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Update on my long suffering W56 rebuild

Okay,

Finally got the last little pieces from Toyota for the trans. Re-assembled all the parts, the cases are on and the shift lever is engaging the shift rails. The mainshaft turns smoothly. My next move is to see if the shifter actually shifts the gears. One question, just how firm is the movement of the shifter forks supposed to be? Can I do it without breaking my finger? OR should I perhaps go ahead and install shift lever to check shift action? Any pointers on this subject appreciated. Haven't messed with one of these previously. Oh yea, in an earlier topic, I mentioned the problem of the shafts rotating without the cases installed. It does have to be installed in order to rotate properly, you can play with input shaft to find proper thrust clearance, but it really helps to have the cases mated, kinda firms it all up. Well gotta go now, have to go do real work. Have a great week.

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Glenn
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 01:51 PM
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Hey Glenn, how about an update? Since it's been a year and a half, how's the tranny holding up. And where did you get all your parts? I'm thinking about busting mine open since the front bearing started whining.
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 02:50 PM
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yea. update.
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 03:31 PM
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You might want to send him an email....he hasn't posted since 10-17-2006 05:45 PM
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