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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 06:51 PM
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Yeah, ewong, nice to have the tools, but I have no place to store them. I try to avoid buying specific tool, but purchase generic ones. As such, I will not be buying the chain strap wrench since I will use the starter breaker wrench method by DaveinDenver. However, I can use this trick and the rope method now I am more educated. Nice to learn and thanks for the Karma. Special thanks to everyone to making me that much smarter.

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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by longhungsilver
Exactly thats the way to do it.. and Ive never removed my spark plugs to do it..... why would you? just give it a quick crank so it doesnt start up .... just let the starter do the work
I think you should at least remove the coil wire before attempting this. You don't want the engine to start by chance and create other problems.

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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by troy65
I think you should at least remove the coil wire before attempting this. You don't want the engine to start by chance and create other problems.

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Troy, which is the coil wire? Is that the center wire on the dizzy cap? I tried searching, but I cannot seem to pinpoint it. Thanks for teaching...I am still learning and appreciate your efforts.

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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by arielb1
Troy, which is the coil wire? Is that the center wire on the dizzy cap? I tried searching, but I can seem to pinpoint it. Thanks for teaching...I am still learning and appreciate your efforts.
Yes. You can also ground it out by clipping the free end of the wire to the frame or body with alligator clips. I've used the crank method exclusively on 4 separate trucks and it worked like a charm.

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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 07:34 PM
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Woops..nevermind. He answered.
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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by troy65
Yes. You can also ground it out by clipping the free end of the wire to the frame or body with alligator clips. I've used the crank method exclusively on 4 separate trucks and it worked like a charm.

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Troy, please explain. I read this five times already. I have a wire with alligator clips, but what is free end of the wire? I still dont know what the coil wire is. Assuming I understand you correctly, remove the coil wire to what ever is connected to it and connect it to the frame of the truck. I am assuming this will prevent the car from fully starting. I am doing my best to understand. Thank you for being patient.

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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by arielb1
Troy, please explain. I read this five times already. I have a wire with alligator clips, but what is free end of the wire? I still dont know what the coil wire is. Assuming I understand you correctly, remove the coil wire to what ever is connected to it and connect it to the frame of the truck. I am assuming this will prevent the car from fully starting. I am doing my best to understand. Thank you for being patient.

thanks all.
When you remove the coil end of the wire that is connected to the distributor cap, you can clip that end of the wire to the frame or body of your truck. This is what they recommend doing in the FSM, if I remember correctly. Having said all that, I usually just make sure the free end of the wire isn't close to the dizzy and that my work space is well ventilated so that the spark from the coil doesn't ignite anything!

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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 08:09 PM
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Okay, thank you Troy65...many many thanks

In summary,
1. dont have to remove all spark plugs
2. remove cable going to center of distributor cap and connect to body of engine via alligator clip. Make sure nothing will spark in garage.
3. place breaker bar as pictured by DaveinDenver
4. Crank (turn over) engine for brief second to remove the crankshaft bolt.
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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 09:51 PM
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yeah it always feels good to finally figure it out...
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Old Aug 28, 2007 | 04:25 AM
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Originally Posted by arielb1
Yeah, I started worrying about torquing it back on. I have seen so many horror stories when the bolt came back off. I did a ebay search on Torque multiplier...I learned two things today. Thanks Chimmike.. I will have to get one. Why do you need a torque wrench and a torque multiplier to get the bolt off as you specified above? I have a torque wrench from Sears, now I have to get the multiplier? Any brands I should look for? Do you have pictures of the torque wrench and multiplier?
lol. You're new to this mechanic stuff, aren't ya?

Don't use the torque wrench to remove the bolt.

Use a breaker bar. The torque multiplier is because i'm quite sure your torque wrench won't go beyond 125 ft-lbs. A multiplier will help you retorque to 181ft-lbs per the factory specs.
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Old Aug 28, 2007 | 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by arielb1
1. dont have to remove all spark plugs
You don't have to remove the plugs, but doing so makes it much easier for the starter to turn the engine over. It's also a way to make very sure the engine does not start! Pulling the coil wire, pulling the ignition and EFI fuses and/or disconnecting the battery are also good ideas.

I think you have it down, there's about 6 ways to do most things. Good luck.
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Old Aug 28, 2007 | 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by DaveInDenver
You don't have to remove the plugs, but doing so makes it much easier for the starter to turn the engine over. It's also a way to make very sure the engine does not start! Pulling the coil wire, pulling the ignition and EFI fuses and/or disconnecting the battery are also good ideas.

I think you have it down, there's about 6 ways to do most things. Good luck.
must be one of those solar powered starters if it can turn with the battery disconnected!
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Old Aug 31, 2007 | 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by drguitarum2005
must be one of those solar powered starters if it can turn with the battery disconnected!
Well, yeah, there's that. :-) My line of thought was about it not starting and disconnected ground is one way to keep it from starting, although, yeah, makes using the starter sort of hard, eh?
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Old Aug 31, 2007 | 07:25 AM
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My advice is to use the starter/breaker bar method for removal.
I have a chain wrench ($20 from HF) that I use to hold the pulley when retorquing the crank shaft bolt during reinstallation.
I used the old timing belt to protect the crank pulley when using chain wrench.
Be careful with the chain wrench since you can damage/deform the crank pulley
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Old Aug 31, 2007 | 10:50 AM
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put the truck in fifth, engage 4x4 if manual, set emergency brake, have someone hit the brakes and use a 3 foot pipe as an extension to your breaker bar.
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