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Old Jan 29, 2007 | 10:17 AM
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how many miles....

sounds like a classic clogged fuel filter to me.
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Old Jan 29, 2007 | 10:34 AM
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Have you checked your TPS, and AFM? Either can cause symptoms like that.
Symptoms are only at idle? Pull your TPS connector and see if it performs the same. If so, its not the TPS. You will throw a code, but if the TPS is not working, you should see the symptoms go away while disconnected.

To check the AFM takes a bit more work.

How is acceleration after the initial hesitation?

How is acceleration above 3k?
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Old Jan 29, 2007 | 10:56 AM
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fuel filter is pretty new.

It will only die at ide, but the stumbling/hesitating during acceleration is constant.
Acceleration really does not improve, its the same all the way up to 70, BAD.
So disconnect the TPS and check for change?
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Old Jan 29, 2007 | 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Lifelongtoy
fuel filter is pretty new.

It will only die at ide, but the stumbling/hesitating during acceleration is constant.
Acceleration really does not improve, its the same all the way up to 70, BAD.
So disconnect the TPS and check for change?

Correct. If the symptoms are the same, problem is not the TPS. Ignore the code for the check. I've not seem a TPS fail that way, but its an easy check. For the AFM, follow the directions in the FSM. Its an expensive part, so hopefully that is not the problem. They do go bad, but apparently at fairly high mileage, based on my experience.
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Old Jan 29, 2007 | 12:29 PM
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Check for vacuum line leaks, I got two hoses crossed once ,ran like your talkin'. To rule out EGR suck on the hose at the top while at idle, it should bog down,even more , but I'm tellin' ya if it's even a little open(sticking) it'll be difficult or IMPOSSIBLE to even keep it idling. Don't stress out man, we're here for ya

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Old Jan 29, 2007 | 02:11 PM
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The clicking at the ecu sounds like a low voltage problem.
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Old Jan 29, 2007 | 02:37 PM
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Low voltage where? Could that be related to the bad acceleration and dying at idle?
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Old Jan 29, 2007 | 02:58 PM
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Where is the AFM on the 22re? Is it also known as an air flow sensor?
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Old Jan 29, 2007 | 03:39 PM
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Where is the AFM on the 22re? Is it also known as an air flow sensor?
The black box with the connector on it, just after the air intake.
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Old Jan 29, 2007 | 11:15 PM
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Sounds like the problem I had not too long ago. Do you have an FSM? If not lemme look at mine and get back to you. Its late and I'm afraid of typing the wrong thing and cuase you more grief.
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 08:33 AM
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yeah I have a factory service manual, and a Haynes, and a couple of friends willing to stand there and drink beer and watch me get pissed off.
Why, you know something good?
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Lifelongtoy
yeah I have a factory service manual, and a Haynes, and a couple of friends willing to stand there and drink beer and watch me get pissed off.
Why, you know something good?
How's the timing? How's the fuel filter? How's the TPS? ECT?
Is this only occuring once when it reaches operating temp.

Here was the thread I had not too long ago.

https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f116/stumbling-hesitating-when-reaches-operating-temp-egr-valve-103517/

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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 02:49 PM
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stumbling occurs right at start up and doesnt quit. Dont know condition of TPS, unplugged it but didnt feel any change.
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 03:02 PM
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Do you know the last time you replaced the fuel filter? I've heard of numerous people having the same problem at idling shortly after startup.
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 03:20 PM
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I probably changed it 5-10,000 mile ago. Would that cause an immediate change from perfect to crappy? Thats what happened, I was driving and all the sudden it started running like crap, split/second change.
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 05:09 PM
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EGR , I'll keep sayin' it, 'till you tell me ya checked it. Jus' tryin' ta help. Another thought on makin' sure it isn't that would be to by-pass the unit altogether. Disconnect at plenum and stick a cork in the hole, if this immediately solves your problem IT'S THE EGR! TRUST ME ON THIS!

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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 06:02 PM
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first thing in the mourning, ill check it. Curious though, how would the EGR cause my problem?
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by MudHippy
EGR , I'll keep sayin' it, 'till you tell me ya checked it. Jus' tryin' ta help. Another thought on makin' sure it isn't that would be to by-pass the unit altogether. Disconnect at plenum and stick a cork in the hole, if this immediately solves your problem IT'S THE EGR! TRUST ME ON THIS!
But he says it occurs immediately on startup. It would be the EGR if the truck has already reached operating temp and then started to stumble. Ask me how I know this?

Its beginning to sound more and more like a fuel delivery problem. Which then you'd have to check fuel pump and fuel pressure regulator. The FPR test is easy, there's two ports in the diagnostic terminal you short and you should be able to hear a hissing sound coming from the FPR(all this is mentioned in the FSM)

Let us know what you find on testing the EGR.
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 02:34 AM
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Hmmm....my 3.0 was doing the same thing. It ran fairly well while driving, but would die at an idle before or after reaching operating temp. I replaced the engine coolant temperature sensor and it stopped doing it. I even had more power after that. Oh, and the clicking noise went away, too.

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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Lifelongtoy
Help! this is killing me.
have you done the obvious? check cap/rotor/plugs?? Try some redline fuel system cleaner in a 1/4 tank of gas, maybe pull the air intake away from the throttle body and spray some cleaner in there.

I've done all of the above and its helped a bit, but when cold it will idle fine but for the first minute or so if I don't rev past 3500 to get going it will almost die, even when i put the clutch in it takes a sec to recover and get back to idle. I have never had a check engine light. Very interested in what you find!
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