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Old Oct 7, 2008 | 11:04 PM
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I can see that going badly wrong if it slipped of the studs lol. I tried that as well actually, didn't break loose. I was doing this in the dark by feel largely so I thought I missed a nut- nope, just 20 square inches of silicone.
Yeah, I would pull up and then push up and repeat to try and get it to let go. I could feel the RTV starting to let go and I was able slide it out pretty well.
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Old Oct 7, 2008 | 11:09 PM
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I caught on the swaybar, and was pulling down when it dropped on to my chest. Ouch..
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Old Oct 7, 2008 | 11:11 PM
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I caught on the swaybar, and was pulling down when it dropped on to my chest. Ouch..
Yeah I too got caught up on it. I ended up removing the sway bar just because it made it that much easier to put in.
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Old Oct 8, 2008 | 07:51 AM
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I personally always use the orange "hi temp" permatex for pretty much everything....never leaked for me.

They are all worthy of use. The thing to remember is that it doesn't take much at all. A very thin layer is all you need. If when you put the parts together and the sealant mushes out everywhere, you've used way too much. Just a thin enough layer to coat the contacting surface. Remember, it's a sealant, not a glue (although it can create a pretty strong bond as witnessed here).
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Old Oct 8, 2008 | 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by krb90
I personally always use the orange "hi temp" permatex for pretty much everything....never leaked for me.

They are all worthy of use. The thing to remember is that it doesn't take much at all. A very thin layer is all you need. If when you put the parts together and the sealant mushes out everywhere, you've used way too much. Just a thin enough layer to coat the contacting surface. Remember, it's a sealant, not a glue (although it can create a pretty strong bond as witnessed here).
See I think Permatex has a bit of scam going on. They offer many overlapping choices of RTV all with pretty much the same desctiption, so you buy a couple tubes of the stuff to try out cause you're not sure which to buy- do I buy red, cause engine are hot, or do I buy buy cause there's oil there...screw it, I'll buy both.

You'd gag if you saw how much I put on my hub covers last night lol.

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Old Oct 8, 2008 | 08:31 AM
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I probably used more on my diff cover

I left the cap open so I had to put a split in the side of the tube. It's hard as hell having to fingerpaint that stuff on lol. Not a great pic, but you can see it gobbing out everywhere.

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Old Oct 8, 2008 | 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by SwampThing
I probably used more on my diff cover

I left the cap open so I had to put a split in the side of the tube. It's hard as hell having to fingerpaint that stuff on lol. Not a great pic, but you can see it gobbing out everywhere.

Might have used a tad much there buddy. Well I can tell you right now, it will probably never leak.
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Old Oct 8, 2008 | 08:49 AM
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Better not! Cause I only allot one tube of fipg per cover
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Old Oct 8, 2008 | 09:04 AM
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Better not! Cause I only allot one tube of fipg per cover
hahahahaha
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Old Oct 8, 2008 | 09:07 AM
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I'll admit, I had an '82 Toy with a rear diff that looked just like that......
And, while I'm confessing, the valve covers look kinda like that too on my '90. That was more out of frustration than anything though. Couple of stripped bolts and, well, like they say in construction....get it close and caulk it.
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Old Oct 8, 2008 | 09:11 AM
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The people that built my engine thought the gaskets would seal without sealant too. They were very wrong.

When I redid everything, I put some sort of sealer on just about every single gasket in the motor except for the head gasket. I used black where it would come into contact with oil, gray where it was just metal to metal, and blue where they got water on them.

I'm happy to say a year later there aren't any leaks on my motor at all.
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Old Oct 8, 2008 | 12:46 PM
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ovrrdrive, same thing to mine. Toyota Black FIPG on just about every damn gasket except the head gasket. Sucker is never gonna leak.
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Old Oct 8, 2008 | 12:55 PM
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See I used some RTV on my water pump gasket and it leaked like a sieve. Read on here that's a no-no so I went and got another gasket and used it dry and there was no leak.

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Old Oct 8, 2008 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by rdlsz24
See I used some RTV on my water pump gasket and it leaked like a sieve. Read on here that's a no-no so I went and got another gasket and used it dry and there was no leak.
Hmm...i used it on mine a couple of times on different trucks...the high temp variety and had no problems. In a situation like that, it's "thin to win".
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Old Oct 8, 2008 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by rdlsz24
See I used some RTV on my water pump gasket and it leaked like a sieve. Read on here that's a no-no so I went and got another gasket and used it dry and there was no leak.

Rob
That's strange. I used fipg for both the timing cover and waterpump on my last yoter. Lasted 10k miles, and I'm sure it would have kept on lasting, but it died a spectacular death. Lol
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Old Oct 8, 2008 | 05:41 PM
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I guess im getting some Black RTV tomorrow
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Old Oct 8, 2008 | 05:46 PM
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Just a question...but why are you using rtv on the oil pan? Yeah the manual says so...but the manual is a piece of crap. I didn't...mine does leak.

+1 to using rtv on EVERY gasket except head/water pump
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Old Oct 8, 2008 | 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by 91Toyota
Just a question...but why are you using rtv on the oil pan? Yeah the manual says so...but the manual is a piece of crap. I didn't...mine does leak.

+1 to using rtv on EVERY gasket except head/water pump
I just use RTV on my oil pan. Cleaned the surfaces really well and it doesn't leak at all. I think I tightened it too soon though so I will have to reapply more RTV instead of just tightening down the gasket more if I loosen the pan ever for the timing chain
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Old Oct 8, 2008 | 08:26 PM
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I also just use FIPG on my oil pan. No gasket.
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Old Oct 8, 2008 | 08:38 PM
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i use ultra grey on everything. not one leak anywhere. i like to do things right once (unlike lots of engine builders that dont use any at all then 6months later the motor looks like it was pulled from a tar pit).
but i guess to each his own.
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