I want to lower my front end about 1.5". My torsion bars are stock and are about stock setting and I have 1.5" BJ spacers.

The two options I have are removing the spacers or backing off all the way on the torsions bars.

When I'm done my primary concerns are softer ride and less where and tear on parts (about 50/50 either way).

I've had the spacers on since the first group buy a while ago, and don't remember if both of these options are pretty much the same or if one is better than the other. Obviously backing off the torsions is easier, but I'll remove the spacers if it means less wear on BJ's etc.

 

Back off the t-bars for sure. Don't know if you'll get -1.5" though, depends on where they are now on the adjustment range.

 

You can take off the BJ spacers and sell them to me!

 

Take the spacers off.

 

I'd like to know how a BJ spacer is going to cause more wear on a ball joint, just out of curiosity. Also, what kind of wear effects is essentially softening the front suspension going to cause.. You can't haul ass down old dirt roads with jelly suspension.

 

I would say it would be better to remove the BJ spacers... That would return the suspension to its stock form which was not only quite mushy, it was also designed to be as reliable as they could mass produce it.

With the tbars loosened and the spacers intact, the suspension is still not operating as it was designed. Even though it may not necessarily be a bad thing, its just not as it was designed. If it was more reliable with the spacers, the engineers most likely would have integrated a spacers in there and used less tension on the tbars.

You;re probably fine either way, but if it were me I'd go back stock.

 

Id say relax the bars. Im looking to add a spacer to my lifted rig to keep the same stance but free up some movement in the front. If you never wheel it just pull em out but IFS sucks stock and you gotta put a tweak on it to get any movement out of it.

My .02

 

If you remove the spacers you WILL NOT have a softer ride, it will be the exact same it is right now... If your tbars are stock why do you want to go 1.5" lower?

IMO soften the tbars, but not much they are pretty soft at stock height anyhow..

 

This is exaxtly what I was wondering. I'll back off the t-bars for now.

For those asking why I want to go lower; its because the new springs and shackles I put in the rear are lower and I'm now nose up a bit. I want to level it.

 

Check out his sig. He already has a 4 superlift. Looks like he is trying to go back down to look right with his 33s. I might be wrong here, but can't you put on BJ spacers and then back off your tbars enough to lower it back down the height that the spacers raise you? You can either take off you spacers or just relax you tbars down enough to give you the ride height your looking for.

 

Exactly right. I put in the spacers then dropped the t bar bolts to just about the last thread. It may even be lower than where I started, but it's nice and soft and flexy. My reason for the mod was to get more articulation, not lift.

 

Yeah I should have mentioned you can back them off so far that it's dangerious. You want to have at least enough bolt threads to fill up the nut. That's all that holds your suspension from collapsing. With general engineering standards you want thread engagement to be 1.5 times the bolt diameter.

 

With you being lifted already i say relax the bars. you will lower the truck to where it sat with just the bracket lift but be softer. your front will be softer. You have what im planning on doing except you didnt relax the bars yet. I backed off my bars a tiny bit and its made it way better already.I just cant go any lower so spacers and turn the bars down it is.

If you sell those spacers let me know id take em off your hands.

 

OK. Let me re phrase what I said: I dropped them as low as I safely could. I still have good thread engagement and the locknut in place.

 

I have loosen t-bars to level the car. I can not see any problems to do so, this way you do not lose the front suspension longer movement which is gained by bj-spacers.