Real quick, lifted my ifs with ome and 1 1/4 BJS and replaced the rest of the suspension and steering. Got it aligned and it was leaning t'word the right after i got it home. The measurements are (from the top of the rim to fender) L rear: 14 7/8, R rear: 14 5/16, L front 14 7/8, R front: 14 14 3/8. The frame where the from two cam bolts are is now even. Before the alignment it was level, the guy said he measures it at the a pillar and it was straight. The rear is a little more off than the front as per the measurements.

My question is what can I explain to this guy to help my case that the alignment isnt right, I don't care if the tires are straight, everything was level before the alignment and now after its off. Thanks for the help I really appreciate it guys!!!

 

You need to be measuring from the floor to the frame. Firstly because it's what matters, all of the steering and suspension is fixed to the frame (it's not a unibody!). Secondly there are many variables that determine how the body looks in relation to the chassis. For example the body mounts, body mount bushings, straightness of the body, and right down to how your fenders are hung.

Now let's assume your floor is dead level, which honestly it probably isn't, like the alignment rack is. There are two things that come to mind. First and foremost something has "settled" since your new parts and alignment were done, this means it needs to go back to the shop. A second senerio is the load has shifted, I ment to quote your original post but I'm pretty confident in remembering, it was showing low on the right side (?). Did you fill up the gas tank, put your tool box back in or anything of this sort?

Tire pressure plays a part in how the vehicle sits, for example when I was driving the 94 daily I could tell if the slow leak in the right front tire needed air just by looking across the hood..


Bottom line if your not happy take it back and have them show you the frame measurements or take it somewhere else and keep in mind if it's not a 4x4 shop used to doing work on lifted vehicles they likely don't have the work experience.