New locker first run pics
Mar 20, 2010 | 01:10 PM
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looks good man. hope you like it!! sorry to see that your getting so much crap for your locker video you bought it you put it in so now you can use it when ever you feel like it. but as long as it works for you..
Mar 20, 2010 | 01:13 PM
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Brenjen you didnt quite hurt my feelings but regardless, can you really engage when your not on flat ground? I dont know if its just me but I can not engage unless im on practically flat ground. Says in the manual that you should not engage unless your on level ground but that was first ive heard of that.
Brenjen you didnt quite hurt my feelings but regardless, can you really engage when your not on flat ground? I dont know if its just me but I can not engage unless im on practically flat ground. Says in the manual that you should not engage unless your on level ground but that was first ive heard of that.
Mar 20, 2010 | 01:41 PM
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If that's directed at me, I'm sorry I hurt your feelings but you made a statement about what would be possible & what wouldn't & I simply pointed out where & why you were mistaken. By viewing the images I figured you didn't know how open vs. locked differentials worked so I made mention of it.
In all the pics save one & the entire vid you have four tires planted at all times; no need for a locker, at least not if you have four wheel drive since I can see you're got appropriate tire tread for such a mild grade & solid ground. In the last shutterfly pic you linked that showed one wheel in the air you would make use of a locker with the wheel lifted like that, especially in two wheel drive & possibly in the mud pic but you can't see the traction available to the other three tires so that pic is irrelevant except for the cool factor.
When all four tires are on the ground & getting traction a locker won't change anything.
Nice truck, nice images, now go out & take it somewhere the locker is really needed.
Mar 20, 2010 | 02:26 PM
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Brenjen you didnt quite hurt my feelings but regardless, can you really engage when your not on flat ground? I dont know if its just me but I can not engage unless im on practically flat ground. Says in the manual that you should not engage unless your on level ground but that was first ive heard of that.
Brenjen you didnt quite hurt my feelings but regardless, can you really engage when your not on flat ground? I dont know if its just me but I can not engage unless im on practically flat ground. Says in the manual that you should not engage unless your on level ground but that was first ive heard of that.
Glad you're not butt-hurt & took it in stride. Wish we could go wheel together; then maybe my point would be clearer & I could see how gnarly this land is because it doesn't look too tough - typing something you want to say get's twisted up sometimes by the time it's read & the meaning gets lost.
To the cheerleaders lol....agree or disagree, you simply can't change the physical properties of traction or a lack thereof by liking a video
Mar 20, 2010 | 02:59 PM
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Easy to understand example; If you put an open diff vehicle in the air on jackstands (zero traction on all four wheels, the least amount you can get lol)...all four tires will spin when you put it in gear & apply the skinny pedal; just like if it was locked & you did it.
Mar 20, 2010 | 03:46 PM
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sorry brenjen, although your theory is correct, an actual tire/ground grip combo is NEVER equal at all tires. if you were on ice and on level ground with the same pressure in all tires the traction deference between the four tires is still enough to send power to the one with least resistance. and as for having the whole truck off the ground with open diff's, try it, it most likely wont happen like you said.
Mar 20, 2010 | 04:01 PM
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*heavy sigh* yeah, you're all right. Physics doesn't matter, time & space warp, lockers are magical - hell mine are in the kitchen making me grilled cheese sandwiches & tomato soup as we speak.
LOL....I'm out
LOL....I'm out
Mar 20, 2010 | 04:11 PM
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I dont agree with anything youve said but arent they magical. hahahaha ill give you that one lol mine are doing the same thing as we speak
Mar 20, 2010 | 04:16 PM
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If that's directed at me, I'm sorry I hurt your feelings but you made a statement about what would be possible & what wouldn't & I simply pointed out where & why you were mistaken. By viewing the images I figured you didn't know how open vs. locked differentials worked so I made mention of it.
In all the pics save one & the entire vid you have four tires planted at all times; no need for a locker, at least not if you have four wheel drive since I can see you're got appropriate tire tread for such a mild grade & solid ground. In the last shutterfly pic you linked that showed one wheel in the air you would make use of a locker with the wheel lifted like that, especially in two wheel drive & possibly in the mud pic but you can't see the traction available to the other three tires so that pic is irrelevant except for the cool factor.
When all four tires are on the ground & getting traction a locker won't change anything.
Nice truck, nice images, now go out & take it somewhere the locker is really needed.
Seriously.... you have no clue lol
Mar 20, 2010 | 04:18 PM
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Not really, not unless you get one front & one back in a low traction scenario with no momentum to carry you through it, if all four tires are getting the same traction (good or bad) you won't see a benefit from a locker.
Easy to understand example; If you put an open diff vehicle in the air on jackstands (zero traction on all four wheels, the least amount you can get lol)...all four tires will spin when you put it in gear & apply the skinny pedal; just like if it was locked & you did it.
Easy to understand example; If you put an open diff vehicle in the air on jackstands (zero traction on all four wheels, the least amount you can get lol)...all four tires will spin when you put it in gear & apply the skinny pedal; just like if it was locked & you did it.
this should be a sticky to get us going through the day. So funny!
Mar 20, 2010 | 04:24 PM
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You have no idea lol. If this was the case...there wouldn't be a need for a locker. In any situation. period. Now go and watch some offroad vids where all 4 tires are planted and on solid ground.... like rockcrawling vids.... where none of them have lockers. Like you say. Since most "purpose built" rockcrawlers have no lockers. 'cause I assume that spending over $10-$50k they would know that lockers aren't needed. I mean, they've been in the sport for awhile..they would know. Right? I would assume.
Mar 20, 2010 | 04:31 PM
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I just watched the video lol. There is no way he would be able to "crawl" up that hill without any momentum and not have wheel spin... That locker made a huge difference. I'm pretty sure that this is a familiar obstacle for him knowing that he had much wheel spin before the installation of the locker. 
Mar 20, 2010 | 05:13 PM
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Thanks man
Mar 20, 2010 | 07:29 PM
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Mar 20, 2010 | 07:54 PM
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i just said that one could probably own that hill climb with out a locker.
but good looking out.
