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Old Apr 2, 2011 | 12:24 AM
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load your pictures to photobucket and then leave the links here for full siz pics. Hrmm camano island huh? You ever drive out the the seattle kirkland area? I'd love to see the kit installed before i pull the trigger.
i dont make it down that way verry often, the furthest i ever realy go is to everett.
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Old Apr 2, 2011 | 12:26 AM
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Stiffer torsion bars should reduce body roll, and shouldnt really affect the flex much.
im going to get the sway a way torsion bars pretty soon
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Old Apr 2, 2011 | 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by peow130
For one, his A-Arms are about 3" longer than yours are.. So.. from a mechanical aspect the leverage applied is significantly greater.
I won't calculate it out (because i don't really care), but when you add 3" of leverage to something designed to only handle 3" less of leverage, then you increase the amounty of torque applied to the stock torsion bars..

In this case, the amount of torque applied increases his body roll and makes his suspension soft. So, stiffer torsion bars would fix this.
Its not a calculation. Do you think the Upper Control Arms control roll? They don't. Stiffen up your UCA's with heavy duty t-bars and do nothing to the LCA's where the anti-sway bar was attached and the LCA's will still compress / extend independently of the UCA and exactly the same. You have to stiffen the way that the LCA's are tied together to reduce roll. You can have fixed UCA's and terrible roll. If the t-bars were attached to the LCA's somehow, then you would be right and heavy duty t-bars would be an OK fix for roll.

What you will have done is guarantee a very stiff/harsh ride if your front end has the stock front weight (bumper, no winch, and to a lesser degree bigger tires).

You have to tie the two LCA's together like the anti-sway bar does. In a left hand turn, the right LCA/shock compresses with the anti-sway bar acting against this compression. The left LCA/shock extends with the anti-sway bar acting against the extension. This reduction in compression and extension by the opposing forces on the LCA's from the anti-sway bar is your roll control. Go with bigger anti-sway bar, and you decrease roll (and flex). Remove it and you have maximum roll with maximum flex. None of this is related to the t-bars or the UCA's.

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Old Apr 2, 2011 | 07:23 AM
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Long travel setups have roll. Its a feature.

Talk to the folks at Blazeland to see what they designed their parts around and what they recommend with t-bars.
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Old Apr 2, 2011 | 07:44 AM
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That's a sexy blazeland kit you got there brandon16!!
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Old Apr 2, 2011 | 11:37 PM
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That's a sexy blazeland kit you got there brandon16!!
thanx, have you had any trouble with yours so far?
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Old Apr 3, 2011 | 12:07 AM
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Nope, I've taken it out and it handles fine. I need better shocks, thinking about going coilovers, and getting rid of torsion bars. Won't be for a while probably though.
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Old Apr 3, 2011 | 11:33 AM
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Nope, I've taken it out and it handles fine. I need better shocks, thinking about going coilovers, and getting rid of torsion bars. Won't be for a while probably though.
thats good to hear. i need to upgrade mine too. i have pro comp 4 inch lift shocks but im thinking about getting Doetsch 8000 Pre-Runner Shocks. have you or anyone else on here used or heard anything about these shocks?
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Old Apr 3, 2011 | 12:32 PM
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I've never heard of them. I'm planning on going with F-O-A Shocks, it's a little cheaper than Fox or King, but I've heard it's better to rebuild after receiving them, which is fine by me.
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Old Apr 3, 2011 | 08:56 PM
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I've never heard of them. I'm planning on going with F-O-A Shocks, it's a little cheaper than Fox or King, but I've heard it's better to rebuild after receiving them, which is fine by me.
ill have to check them out
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Old Apr 3, 2011 | 10:56 PM
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so i need some opinions, i need to upgrade the torsion bars because i am using the stocks ones. i was looking at the sway-a-ways and there going for around $230 or should i wait and just go for the F-O-A for around $470 and just save up for a little bit longer. any help would be appriciated
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Old Apr 6, 2011 | 09:01 AM
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The first production run of the Blazeland Shock Hoops are supposed to be ready on Friday. In my opinion the best setup is to run a coil over assist. Use a 2.5 threaded body remote res. shock with an 8" travel. Use a 300lb 16" long coil spring. This configuration is designed to still use the stock torsion bars. You should dial back the T-Bar pre-load to about half what it is designed to take. This way you are dividing the loads between T-Bar spring and Coil spring so neither system is working very hard. You will achieve dual spring rate and have two separate inputs for adjusting different preloads. I added a page (5) to the Blazeland website for more information on the Shock Hoops.

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Old Apr 6, 2011 | 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by BlazeN8
This way you are dividing the loads between T-Bar spring and Coil spring
That's a pretty cool idea. It's like a Zuk mod for the front end!
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Old Apr 6, 2011 | 10:15 AM
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I would love to see Blazen8 advance this to be a coilover LT suspension
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Old Apr 6, 2011 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by brandon16
thats good to hear. i need to upgrade mine too. i have pro comp 4 inch lift shocks but im thinking about getting Doetsch 8000 Pre-Runner Shocks. have you or anyone else on here used or heard anything about these shocks?
I'm using DT prerunner 8000. For my application they are working great so far, I have only wheeled on them twice and prob have less than 20 street miles on them.


They are very beefy compared to stock. the shaft is huge. These pics compare them size wise to my stock 86 4runner shock and a stock TRD billy off of my 05 taco.



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Old Apr 9, 2011 | 06:47 PM
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wow the truck is lookin good with that blazeland man
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Old Apr 11, 2011 | 11:48 AM
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wow the truck is lookin good with that blazeland man
thanks, im pretty happy with it
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Old Aug 8, 2011 | 02:55 PM
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Post deleted, wrong thread.
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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 07:36 PM
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any updates? or more pics?
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