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Old Mar 14, 2009 | 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by bigt
89-95 4runners the video sez
I couldn't get the video to run. I did however get this from consumer reports.

September 7, 2005
Toyota is recalling 978,000 pickup trucks and sport utility vehicles sold in the U.S. because a steering relay rod on the vehicles may fracture, causing a loss of control.

Toyota vehicles affected by its recall are from the 1989-1996 model years and include power-steering equipped 4Runner sport utility vehicles and compact pickups and T-100 pickups, Toyota said.

Thanks for the clarification. Now all I have to call on is the 4runner if it doesn't sell tomorrow.
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Old Mar 14, 2009 | 07:48 PM
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I'm still curious. Would they charge any additional bogus fees to fix the relay rods? Would they find an excuse to tack on an extra $300 because some imaginary bushings needed replaced in order to get to the relay rods?
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Old Mar 14, 2009 | 08:01 PM
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I'm still curious. Would they charge any additional bogus fees to fix the relay rods? Would they find an excuse to tack on an extra $300 because some imaginary bushings needed replaced in order to get to the relay rods?
Tierod ends, idler or pitman arm, upper and lower balljoints......... any number of these.
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Old Mar 14, 2009 | 08:03 PM
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yea it wasnt cool cuz i was a student and they wouldnt let the truck leave without the recall..so they forced me to pay pretty much... so i scarred to take my other 4runner... i know my hilux was done in japan because it has a yllow dot by the vin plate
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Old Mar 14, 2009 | 08:13 PM
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My dealer told me that my TRE adjusters where seized and idler arm was worn. No extra parts like some guys got....

I ended up replacing the Tie rod assemblys when I put my lift on..
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Old Mar 14, 2009 | 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by DeathCougar
This lawsuit is bogus. I can't believe this sort of thing is allowed.

The kid was drinking, speeding on a back country road, not wearing his seat belt, and rolled the truck. They never mention in the story that the Relay rod was broken, or even damaged at all.

WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH THE RECALL?!?!!?

His kid is a RETARD, and he is looking for someone to blame. Oh look, toyota has a recall it MUST be their fault. And yet another media story that criticizes a National brand, simply to make a news story. Its very easy to point fingers at a major brand, because the negative publicity of saying "its not our fault" would kill them.
I agree alcohol in a teenager + driving = bad news period.
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Old Mar 14, 2009 | 09:05 PM
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They never mention in the story that the Relay rod was broken, or even damaged at all.
um, didn't you see on the video where they zoomed in on the rod and it was completely broke off??
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Old Mar 14, 2009 | 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by bigt
ive been meaning to take one of my 4runners in but last time they gouged me so much to have all this other aligment and stuff i had to pay 400 bucks.. i can afford it this time...
When I took mine to the dealership to have that rod replaced they wanted to charge me like 180 to repack bearings, 200 and something to replace and idler arm and 200 and something to replace some other arm, then they would do the free alignment.
Called my uncle up, and he said they probably just saw a little normal corrosion and wanted to replace that stuff.

I later replaced my rotors and repacked myself. They didnt even need to be... the dealership was just too lazy to check, and thats easy money for them.
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Old Mar 14, 2009 | 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by crolison
I agree alcohol in a teenager + driving = bad news period.
alcohol in anyone of any age + driving = bad news. sucks for the family, i feel for his dad, i really do. the death of anyone makes me feel really horrible. but alcohol was involved... and no one can say wether or not the steering relay caused it, it could have snapped when he hit a boulder or something causing him to flip, it could have snapped and caused him to lose control, could have been ANYTHING. so im gonna place blame on BOTH parties, simply because there WAS a recall out, (toyota) and cuz the owners didnt take it in AND he had been drinking (tho obviously not a lot, maybe a lightweight, who knows??)
so it could have been either ones fault, we dont know, and cant know. makes me want to call the dealer and see if my truck is eligible for the recall.
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Old Mar 14, 2009 | 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by DeathCougar
This lawsuit is bogus. I can't believe this sort of thing is allowed.

The kid was drinking, speeding on a back country road, not wearing his seat belt, and rolled the truck. They never mention in the story that the Relay rod was broken, or even damaged at all.

WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH THE RECALL?!?!!?

His kid is a RETARD, and he is looking for someone to blame. Oh look, toyota has a recall it MUST be their fault. And yet another media story that criticizes a National brand, simply to make a news story. Its very easy to point fingers at a major brand, because the negative publicity of saying "its not our fault" would kill them.

Wow? Harsh words, especially from a "super moderator" yikes!!!
YOUR COMMENT IS BOGUS!

Seriously, Calling a kid a Retard, aint cool in my book. Regardless, of what lawsuit Toyota may be facing. There is NO EXCUSE FOR INSULTING SOMEONE WHO HAS PASSED AWAY!!!

Obviously, more than one factor contributed to his sons unfortunate passing, alcohol, speeding, default parts, unexperienced driver. I dont think anyone, including TOYOTA can really say exactly was caused the accident. But, I will say this, if the part NEVER broke his sons chances/percentage of living might have increased if the part never failed.......

Think about it? Im sure alot of accidents were caused because of that part breaking.

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Old Mar 14, 2009 | 10:00 PM
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um, didn't you see on the video where they zoomed in on the rod and it was completely broke off??
death cougar obviously did not. What a weird forum. Ideology over common sense from a (super) moderator is not constructive.
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Old Mar 14, 2009 | 10:17 PM
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Okay, he was stating his thoughts i dont' see the big deal..

Not like the kids where that bright by drinking and driving/speeding/and not wearing seat belts.

Speaking of steering rod. Anyone need one? I cut off my ifs assembly, so if you need a steering rod that was recalled by Toyota let me know i have one for cheap.
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Old Mar 14, 2009 | 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by RelayRod
death cougar obviously did not. What a weird forum. Ideology over common sense from a (super) moderator is not constructive.
What exactly are you trying to construct?
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Old Mar 14, 2009 | 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by raydouble
What exactly are you trying to construct?
Well its not that big of deal, but I think that being any type of moderator for this website/forum. One should always remain professional and set a good example for other user's that comment on this forum. ya know?

I don't have a child yet, but I'd imagine as a parent when your kid passes away before you,it must be devastating.
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Old Mar 14, 2009 | 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Lotus1
um, didn't you see on the video where they zoomed in on the rod and it was completely broke off??
Did Cougs see this?
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Old Mar 14, 2009 | 11:25 PM
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This RelayRod DB isn't a concerned third party, he is obviously involved somehow.
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Old Mar 14, 2009 | 11:41 PM
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This is just totally wierd...
My 91 2wd has been in the family since 95 (it was my mother's and is now my wife's [Sin91]) and we have never received any notice that there was a recall.

To me, this report rates right up there with the Audi "sudden acceleration" issue... which lead to the requirement for vehicles (automatics) that you had to step on the brake to shift out of park. Coincidentally, the VW vehicles (Quantum / Passat) did NOT have the same reported incidents / issues as the Audi (4000/5000) vehicles in spite of being IDENTICALLY constructed vehicles (down to the electronics on board) with the exception of the outer body panels.

It's mentioned in passing that there was a BAC of .03 and people were thrown from the vehicle. To me that suggests that the driver was drinking and people weren't wearing their seatbelts. And somehow this is Toyota's fault?

Coincidence or otherwise, doesn't make much difference though. Toyota admits there's a problem (thus the recall) but was this accident caused by the failure of the part? The news article doesn't say since it hasn't been proven but the implication from the news report is that it was the vehicle, not the alcohol, that caused the accident. Now you know, and can see, the bias in the media to put blame on big corporation even when there is no proof.

But if you own a vehicle affected by the recall, take it in so you don't become another statistic.
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Old Mar 15, 2009 | 02:14 AM
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I did indeed see the broken rod. However, working in the wrecking industry, I have seen almost every rolled over vehicle with a broken relay rod. They do not contend that the broken relay rod was the problem. They merely imply that the recall is the reason the kid died.

Please do not bring my "mod" status into this situation, it has nothing to do with the topic at hand. I am sure it is devestating for a parent to lose a child, but for the parent to blame toyota is ludicrious.

RelayRod: I implore you to prove your case. So far, you have done nothing but post against Toyota on this board, with no proof that toyota has commited any wrong doing.

It has nothing to do with ideology, its common sense. Everyone looks for someone else to blame, and this parent is no different. Should Ford be blamed for every rollover related accident because they have a recall for tires? No. Should every Ford pinto related death be blamed on their recall, since they determined the fuel tanks COULD rupture? No.

Again, I refer back to the article. Did they ever say the relay rod failure was the problem? NO. they Simply implied that the cause of the accident was due to a relay rod failure.
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Old Mar 15, 2009 | 02:40 AM
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i took mine in and my dealership told me there was no such thing
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Old Mar 15, 2009 | 02:47 AM
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i hate my stealsership, will probably have go to odessa to get it done, but i really dont know if i want to chance the drive
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