Notices
86-95 Trucks & 4Runners 2nd/3rd gen pickups, and 1st/2nd gen 4Runners with IFS

lock front or rear ????

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 02-06-2007, 12:48 PM
  #1  
Contributing Member
Thread Starter
 
olharleyman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: maryland
Posts: 3,607
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
lock front or rear ????

Ok so im having a little trouble deciding to lock either the front or rear with a lunch box locker as i see they are called.. Any pros and cons that anyone has run across, what brand is the most friendly, and wheres the best place to get said locker for the money??? trying to get this done before i pull out the rear and add the 5.29s front is already done but no locker yet.Any advice from people running them is what i need.Will be going on a 90 4runner that is a dd and weekend warrior

thanks guys and girls

Last edited by olharleyman; 02-06-2007 at 01:04 PM.
Old 02-06-2007, 12:51 PM
  #2  
Registered User
 
deathrunner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: San Diego CA
Posts: 2,969
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Rear Rear Rear Rear Rear
Old 02-06-2007, 12:52 PM
  #3  
Registered User
 
Intrepid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Ashburnham, MA
Posts: 2,685
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
What vehicle, what do you use it for?

If you plan to only have one locker, run it in the rear.
Old 02-06-2007, 12:57 PM
  #4  
CJM
Registered User
 
CJM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Central NJ
Posts: 4,940
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Rear, a front locker means you want a dedicated trail rig as its not quite that easy to drive on the road anymore with a front locker.
Old 02-06-2007, 12:59 PM
  #5  
Contributing Member
 
ADH8796's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Fayetteville, AR
Posts: 1,150
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Rear and maybe search there is lots of info on this.

Last edited by ADH8796; 02-06-2007 at 01:00 PM.
Old 02-06-2007, 12:59 PM
  #6  
Registered User
 
shaeff's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Hudson Valley, NY
Posts: 912
Received 8 Likes on 8 Posts
i don't have any lockers, but everything i've read thus far on the subject says to lock the rear first. personally, i'm doing an SAS and adapting e-lockers to both axles. i like versatility.

-shaeff
Old 02-06-2007, 03:24 PM
  #7  
Registered User
 
89-4Runner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 155
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by CJM
Rear, a front locker means you want a dedicated trail rig as its not quite that easy to drive on the road anymore with a front locker.
couldn't you still drive it on the street with the hubs unlocked?
Old 02-06-2007, 06:17 PM
  #8  
Registered User
 
jusfloorit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 109
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Sorry to jack but how streetable is a front truetrac?
Old 02-06-2007, 06:19 PM
  #9  
Contributing Member
 
chimmike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: SRQ, FL
Posts: 1,521
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by CJM
Rear, a front locker means you want a dedicated trail rig as its not quite that easy to drive on the road anymore with a front locker.
not true. unlocked hubs +2wd = no problems
Old 02-06-2007, 07:01 PM
  #10  
CJM
Registered User
 
CJM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Central NJ
Posts: 4,940
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Originally Posted by 89-4Runner
couldn't you still drive it on the street with the hubs unlocked?
If you have manual hubs, which not everyone does and he didnt say if he did. I never said it wasnt possible now did I?
Old 02-06-2007, 07:23 PM
  #11  
tc
Contributing Member
 
tc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Longmont, CO
Posts: 8,875
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
I disagree. The FRONT locker makes more difference offroad than the rear. BY FAR. It also has more downsides, a lot of which are mitigated by manual hubs.
Old 02-06-2007, 07:29 PM
  #12  
Registered User
 
Stomis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Point Pleasant NJ
Posts: 628
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
BOTH! Theres the right answer. Well really the right answer is rear then manual hubs then both. I can't wait to be locked front and back and our wheel all the tough guys on 40's
Old 02-06-2007, 07:32 PM
  #13  
CJM
Registered User
 
CJM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Central NJ
Posts: 4,940
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
< Gotta love those manual hubs
Old 02-06-2007, 08:09 PM
  #14  
Registered User
 
InternetRoadkill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Posts: 1,187
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Originally Posted by jusfloorit
Sorry to jack but how streetable is a front truetrac?
Very streetable. It has very little effect on turning radius. But you shouldn't be driving with the hubs locked on pavement.
Old 02-06-2007, 08:38 PM
  #15  
Contributing Member
Thread Starter
 
olharleyman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: maryland
Posts: 3,607
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Ok fellas just for the record i do have manuel hubs and getting ready to run 35s with 5.29 stock 3.0 205000 have front pumpkin out so its a very interesting delima so as long as i dont lock on pavement the front will be ok?? but the best is to go both???
Old 02-06-2007, 08:39 PM
  #16  
CJM
Registered User
 
CJM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Central NJ
Posts: 4,940
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Then no worries expect pushing those massive meats around.
Old 02-06-2007, 08:58 PM
  #17  
Registered User
 
InternetRoadkill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Posts: 1,187
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
The "best" combo depends on what you intend to use your rig for. There is no single right answer.

For hard-core off-roading, you generally want full lock on both front and rear. Having a selectable locker like an ARB in the front can help with the steering issues.

For moderate off-roading, go with a detroit locker in the rear and a truetrak up front. No issues with turning radius with this setup and the truetrak is much kinder on the front linkages and drive shafts than a full locker. But take note: the truetrak will unlock if you pick a front wheel up off the ground which is very common with IFS. You can cause the truetrak to lock again by applying light brakes in this situation. This is no real problem with an automatic tranny, but it can be a bit of a challenge with a manual tranny if you're trying to work the clutch and throttle at the same time. Something to consider when choosing a truetrak.

If money is an issue, lock the rear first. Avoid the lunchbox lockers if possible and go with the detroit locker or similar. They are much stronger.
Old 02-06-2007, 09:31 PM
  #18  
Contributing Member
 
AxleIke's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Arvada, Colorado
Posts: 5,464
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 5 Posts
My front is locked, my rear is on LSD.

I drive my truck on pavement with the hubs locked in all the time.

I think the front locked will get you farther, but its been my experience that isn't always a good thing. I've gotten farther, then gotten really stuck, since the rear couldn't back up what the front was talkin.

I'm going to go with the "it depends" answer, and let the rest of you figure it out.
Old 02-06-2007, 10:29 PM
  #19  
Registered User
 
fork's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: i ka moana
Posts: 949
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
i think lock the rear. i personally wouldnt put an auto locker on the front if its ifs with 35s
Old 02-07-2007, 02:42 AM
  #20  
Registered User
 
Just Learning's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Greeley Colorado
Posts: 746
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
to lock or not

well Iv got a 86 wtih lockers in front, and rear yes manual locking hubs, and yes every time i get gas or food someone reminds me that my truck is making a ratchet sound and if you turn hard you will hear a slam noise( nothing broke but it took about three times before i learned how to turn), and yes you have the ability to just get stuck in a harder way, soo get em and have fun, and extra long un-stuckem roap


Quick Reply: lock front or rear ????



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 10:17 PM.