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Old Nov 23, 2006 | 11:25 AM
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After I realized what it took to remove the steering spindle the first time I did it, according to the write up in the tech section, I would HIGHLY recommend doing this :

Pull the CV shaft out of the hub, and crawl under your truck and grease it all from the inside. This will be like 400x faster than removing the spindle to grease it, and not near the pain in the ankles either.

I just covered the CV shaft and inside of the spindle with grease when I did it, but I had my spindle off .
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Old Nov 23, 2006 | 11:43 AM
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any step by step with or w/o pics?
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Old Nov 23, 2006 | 12:08 PM
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Pics and writes up please.
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Old Nov 23, 2006 | 01:17 PM
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I just pulled the CV and did it from the inside. I've replaced the studs with bolts, so it's not TOO bad to pull the CV. The driver's side could stand to be replaced anyways (gotta love those lifetime guarantee CV axles...)

Procedure was to pull the CV axle, really goop up the hole with grease, and reinstall the CV axle. Not too complicated!

Also changed the circlips to snap rings while at it. (1-1/8" - could find at Ace Hardware, but not at an autoparts store)
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Old Nov 23, 2006 | 02:28 PM
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You want me to do a Step By Step? Dang..

If you meant me, I'll borrow my roomate's camera tomorrow and take some pictures of what I had been suggesting then I'll post it tomorrow night.
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Old Nov 23, 2006 | 02:54 PM
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If you got some time yes.

Any and all good info is very welcome.

Check out the whos online in the helpful links. There is always quite a few search engines looking in.

And people are constantly searching for info.
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Old Nov 23, 2006 | 02:57 PM
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I'll try to get it up as soon as I can tomorrow then, I don't have access to a camera tonight anyways. I was just surprised that someone wanted me to do one!
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Old Nov 24, 2006 | 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by toyota_mdt_tech
Keggo, save your time/labor, grease the spndles and the noise will be gone. Its not the fact its bushing vs needles, its the fact its dry vs lubed. The OE bushings never wear out! Needles can get water in there, rust and ruin the axle shaft bearing surface and you will have to go right back in. I can draw a picture (good at illustrating) and post a picture of my spindle lubricator tool with instructions on hardware stuff if ther demand is there. I might even take my camera to work and snap a picture of it. We dont use it nearly as much as we used to since the Tacoma and splined shaft to hubs took over. But I keep it at work for those rare occasions we need it. Also, a rattling axle over bumps is a sign of dry spindle bushings too.

Ok, I was reading your description of your tool that you made. Now, the process of lubing it is what I have a question about. Do you completely remove the CV, or do you just pull it back a little bit to open up some space for the grease to flow through? This sounds really nice and I'm pretty sure I know exactly what your talking about on how to make it... BUT! For the grease fitting, it requires you to drill a hole in the dead cap, then weld/braze it airtight, correct? I'd love to see an illustration. Possibly a step by step pictorial guide as to building it AND using it? Thanks for the advice!
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Old Nov 24, 2006 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Keggo
Ok, I was reading your description of your tool that you made. Now, the process of lubing it is what I have a question about. Do you completely remove the CV, or do you just pull it back a little bit to open up some space for the grease to flow through? This sounds really nice and I'm pretty sure I know exactly what your talking about on how to make it... BUT! For the grease fitting, it requires you to drill a hole in the dead cap, then weld/braze it airtight, correct? I'd love to see an illustration. Possibly a step by step pictorial guide as to building it AND using it? Thanks for the advice!
Take the spindle nut you bought from the dealer, braze it to a 2" piece of water pipe about 3" long (the pipe is a piece from Home Depot, threaded on both ends) and then a dead cap. You can drill a small hole in the end of the dead cap and thread it ti fit your grease fitting. Braze the spindle nut onto the water pipe at one end, cente rit nicely, braze (or MIG/TIG) it air tight. Now after removing either the hub or ADD plate, you will need to also remove the snap ring and thrust washer from the end of the axle shaft. This is needed to allow grease t go in. Now the new tool air space will need to fill with grease, so first time use, its going to take a bit of grease. Thast why I say 3" long pipe, but longer would work. Remove one of your stock spindle nuts, and screw the tool onto the spindle, snug it by hand. Now just stat adding grease. It willpush the axle back in and go till you see grease come out barely from the back. Remove the tool and button it back up. Now the axle will need some help coming back with the grease in there. I put the bolt into the end of the axle and then use a large prybar and the ADD plate stud as a lever and draw it back into the hole. Install thrust and snap ring. Button up the rest. Done. Whole job, about 30 minutes per side. I'm going to take the tool I made home and will take a picture of it and psot it tonight or the next day. Everyone, does this makes sense? Just trying to relay the info and trying to keep it clear.
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Old Nov 24, 2006 | 01:11 PM
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Yeah, that makes perfect sense... Why hadn't a tool like this been made before??
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Old Nov 24, 2006 | 02:48 PM
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It has. Mac sells one. Cheaper to make your own.
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Old Nov 24, 2006 | 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by tc
Is the bushing supposed to have big grooves in it?
Yes, but you will know machined grooves vs galling.
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Old Nov 24, 2006 | 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by runethechamp
Sure looks like you have a lot of good info for the board, but I thought the needle bearings were a fix from Toyota for the bushings that would wear out? I'm also having a hard time seeing how they would do more harm than the bushing. Do you have any more info on this?
Simple science. Anytime you have to metal parts rubbing, the softer brass bushings will not tear into a hardened axle. The needle bearings will gall the axle shaft. And in this forum, many of you do heavy off roading, water plus steel needle bearings is a certain recipe for rusty needle bearings, then shortly thereafter...
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Old Nov 24, 2006 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by tc
Lubing up the spindle bushings appears to have worked. Thanks guys!
TC, you stick with me and I'll show you the world. Keep in mind, any trouble you guys find, I've seen it probably atleast a dozen times and have refined the fix. Well, not just me, all of out techs, we share all our fixes with each other. Helsp us out and the customer too. Everyone is happy that way.
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Old Nov 24, 2006 | 05:13 PM
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If you guys still want me to do the write up with pictures an all should I post it in the technical info section or this section.
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Old Nov 24, 2006 | 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Keggo
Yeah, that makes perfect sense... Why hadn't a tool like this been made before??
It was, I made it 10 years ago! I will post a picture of it before this weekend is out.
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Old Nov 24, 2006 | 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Mister Willie
If you guys still want me to do the write up with pictures an all should I post it in the technical info section or this section.

I think only the Mods can post in Tech.
So here or a new thread is only choice.
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Old Nov 24, 2006 | 10:29 PM
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Ok. I'll have to get ahold of a camera tomorrow. unless someone can take pictures for me
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Old Nov 26, 2006 | 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by toyota_mdt_tech
Simple science. Anytime you have to metal parts rubbing, the softer brass bushings will not tear into a hardened axle. The needle bearings will gall the axle shaft. And in this forum, many of you do heavy off roading, water plus steel needle bearings is a certain recipe for rusty needle bearings, then shortly thereafter...
I was just wondering if this would be the explanation for it. Thanks for the info.
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Old Jan 26, 2007 | 06:43 PM
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ok im a little well a whole lota lost right now is it better (easer faster) to just take out the cv looking thingy and lube the snot out of it or make that tool thingamjig and do it the "right" way cause im broke and lazy heck i have a lazy chair for my computer desk he he
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