93toyopickupCT

Ok heres the symptoms!!! sometimes the truck will not shift into any gear or out of gear if it is already in it with the engine running. If i shut the engine off i can put it in gear and start it but the truck will jerk forward or backward depending on which gear it is in. there is plenty of fluid in both the master and the trany. i dont see leaks anywheres... tryed messing with freeplay but that hasnt helped... when the cluch is pressed i can see the fork underneath by the tranny moving... and it seems to do it at its own free will! one minute it wont shift and litteraly the next it will. is it the Master? also is the "clutch release cylinder" the same as what used to be called the slave? im new to toyos so i don't know whats what!! im sure everyone has seen and heard this a million times on here but if you guys can help me figure out what the problem is im sure i can fix it... right now whats driving me nuts is the WHAT!!!

Thanks for your help guys!!!

waskillywabbit

iTrader: (-1)

Check fluid and no leaks.
Check pedal and bracket for cracks.
Check shifter seat and bushing.
Check slave and master.
Check clutch itself.

I'm guessing slave or bracket.

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wvboy

Have you bled the system checking for air?

1990yota-pickup

replace you master and your slave cly. and get a vacuum to bleed it and you should have no problems after this..

93toyopickupCT

changed slave and blead system and still no luck... while bleeding i did see that the push rod was working and was pushing against the release fork... does this rule out the master or no? any other easy things i can try? i did notice that when you try to put it in gear it seems like it is idleing down a little as it trys to get into gear... i ordered a new master anyway and am going to try that tomorrow... any other ideas would be appreciated. someone said something about something under the shifter nob that can be changed for relativly cheap. are those the bushings that everyone is talking about?

gary96360

could be a broken throwout bearing? earlier this yr i was driving around then suddenly the throwout bearing began to squeal. later on that night i decided to go wheeling. my buddy gets stuck in a tight trail(driving around in 2wd with a broken front axle u joint), i reverse to go back to pull him out and then i found out i couldnt put the truck in neutral. shut off the truck. put some straps and pulled out the ford. clutch didnt work at all so i used the start clutch cancel button to start moving. i drove around all night around town, shutting truck off at lights and then turning it back on. had to start in 2nd gear and left it in that gear because i couldnt shift. heres the damage i found..

93toyopickupCT

could this problem possibly be my shifter seat bushing? i have an idea what this is but how would i know if it is bad? is this something i can remove to see if it is worn?

peckinpah

If it's the shifter seat bushing, you can get in and out of gear OK, but the shifter pops out of gear once you get moving. So that does not sound like the problem to me.

I would back my push rod out a half inch or so and see if that helps. The rod itself is threaded and can be turned. Maybe the way the rod is set now, the pedal is not pressing far enough to fully disengage the clutch plate from the flywheel, so it stays in gear.

However, I would mark the spot where it was set originally and put it back to that same spot if this does not work.

Are you using the truck off road a lot or just on the street?

93toyopickupCT

just on the street. im replacing my master today... how do i know where the pushrod is supposed to be placed? i know the pedal hieght and all that but i just have to look for the exact position of the push rod...

93toyopickupCT

changed master and still nothing... the fork is def moving enuff and just for the heck of it i looked at the seat bearing and it in good shape. is the throw out bearing something that could be done with and fair amount of automotive experience... im not an expert but i know my way around the truck... the hardest thing ive done was the timing chain on this 93 4cyl....

sebastianholmes

im with gary, throwout bearing. mine pretty much exploded last week so now i get a new clutch and fresh rebuilt motor

RustBucket

iTrader: (1)

What clutch kit were you guys using who had trouble with detonating throwouts?

gary96360

pretty sure it was stock

93toyopickupCT

how much will a clutch job cost? how much is a good kit? what kind is good?

wvboy

I just put "zoom" clutch in my 94 last weekend. $95 from advance and a little over 3 hours start to finish. It was the cheapest clutch I could find locally and the only clutch that was actually in stock. I don't rock crawl and will never run over a 31 inch tire so I think the cheap clutch will be fine for my use.

peckinpah

3 hours? Wow, that's extremely impressive. I spent two days doing mine, one drop the tranny and disassemble the clutch and bearings, and another to put it all back together.

What's your secret? Did you have a pit crew of NASCAR mechanics helping you?

wvboy

I have quite a bit invested in tools and I do clutches on BIG trucks on a regular basis. Having professional tools makes a big difference.

The best way to do it is have a good jack, secure the trans so it won't move on the jack, support the motor so it won't move, and as long as everything stays in place its as simple as pulling it back, replacing the clutch/bearings, and sliding it back together.

It also helps to put the trans in high gear before trying to slide through the clutch, makes it easy to turn the input shaft using the rear yoke.

BTW, I wasn't working in my yard, I took it to the shop I work in mainly to use a big bumper jack. The rear tires were about 2 foot off the floor and yes, I was working alone.

streetlancer

iTrader: (1)

Dont need a pit crew.
You just have to know what you're doing; i can pull my tranny in 40 minutes or less.

sebastianholmes

i got a brand new OEM Aisin clutch on ebay for 90 bucks plus shipping. thats the place i buy all my stuff from