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Old Aug 4, 2008 | 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt16
Sshaefer's comment is wrong. That is factually incorrect. A swaybar is a piece of metal shaped like this [ . It is made of spring steel and is connected to the frame in the middle and to each suspension arm at the ends. When one of the ends is pushed upwards (suspension compressed), the SB transmits part of that force to the opposite wheel. Effectively, with a swaybar, you have semi-independent front suspension as the sway bar connects both A arms together. Thus the A arm on one side can't compress without the other slightly compressing as well. The same is true for extension (droop). This inhibits flex for the axle that it is placed upon. End of argument.

However, you don't only have one axle flexing. Both axles work together to articulate over bumps. Dues to the configuration of our trucks, front IFS and rear solid axle, they don't flex very well. The rear flexes hugely, while the front just doesn't. Thus the body motion is almost entirely determined by the front wheels. The rear sway bar opposes the rear flexing, and actually forces the front to flex a little. I drove around a little without a rear swaybar, and overall suspension flexed less and the body had more lean and the handling was weird. With no front swaybar however, the rear is more able to force the front to flex, thus the truck's suspension is more balanced and the truck flexes better.
As I said, please take it to the other thread. Then everyone can read the arguements in one place. Plus, I think you make a good point, and could help someone else reading that thread.
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Old Aug 4, 2008 | 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt16
So he buys a built jeep that gets terrible mileage, and now can't afford to wheel it.
I don't want you guys to think badly of him. He spent YEARS trying to build a 1986 Jeep, I think it was a CJ, to wheel and be dependable. Should have bought an 86 SR5 I guess... *grin* When it came time that he couldn't get it done he traded it on a Toyota 2wd pickup, tried to build a Scout II then traded that on a Chevy, a car and then two Fords and finally got fed up with not having a Jeep and dropped almost 30K on the brand new Rubicon. It's a nice rig, really. But now with kids and the mortgage and the fact that it gets 11mpg he can't really drive it. Although he did confess that he's locked the front end in once and it seems to work ok.

Me? I just can't spend that kind of money on a vehicle. I'll stick with my 6K Toyota and enjoy the 24.9mpg so far.

But really other than him being confused about when to air down, what Dana 44's really are and the mentality of "if it ain't a Jeep it's a car" he's a good friend. Besides that the other day I asked what the spline cound was on those shafts and he pulls out the owners manual to find out......... he's a dork but a god dork.
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