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Old Aug 28, 2008 | 12:39 PM
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factory clutch life??

so, i have 160K on my truck, and, i have no idea if the clutch has been replaced some time in the past, so i was just curious as to how long the clutches last usually?? (stock clutch)
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Old Aug 28, 2008 | 12:57 PM
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It's totally dependant on how you use it. If you drive in city trafic and shift a lot then 160,000 would be pretty good. If you're on the highway a lot and don't shift much then it'll last a lot longer.

And if you ride the clutch then you could kill very quickly.

I replaced the one on my 93 after 220,000 km, and it looked to have about 25% of the thickness left on the disc. I only replaced it mostly because I got tired of the throw out bearing squealing.

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Old Aug 28, 2008 | 01:24 PM
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go figure i have 300,000 on the original clutch. (most of its life being driven from san diego to LA a lot)
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Old Aug 28, 2008 | 09:24 PM
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the point being how the clutch has been used.
I know people that have driven 300,000 miles, maybe more, ... and quite literally, only used the clutch a few hundred miles of that, and as such, haven't required a clutch replacement even once over that distance.
so, as mentioned, how one uses the clutch determines how often it needs replaced.
And I can say that from experience since I had ONE clutch in an 81 VW Scirocco for over 200K miles, and it would still bark out 2nd and 3rd gear shifts if I pushed it.

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Old Aug 28, 2008 | 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Swansen
so, i have 160K on my truck, and, i have no idea if the clutch has been replaced some time in the past, so i was just curious as to how long the clutches last usually?? (stock clutch)
mine went out at about 205,000
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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 12:36 PM
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hmm, right, well, out of all the things that hate life on my truck, i don't think the clutch is one of them. Well, i must be like the fourth owner, but a kid (other than me) had it at once point, and liked to wheel it, so i'm sure that was good, but, then it was a wood hauler, and i just have normal use. So, it if were my guess.... i'd say it should go out any time now.. Anyways, thanks for the info guys, i was just wondering if i should order a clutch and what not just to have the parts around and ready, of if i should hold off for another 20k
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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 12:38 PM
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is it slippin pretty good? if so, then id say replace it. if it doesnt slip, then youre fine
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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 12:41 PM
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Couldn't tell you how long the original one lasted on my '86 4rnr. I bought the thing at around 125k miles or so. Two years ago when it started slipping at around 190k and I dropped the tranny to put in a Marlin (Seico), I found the clutch that was in it was from CHINA! Probably not the original clutch.

I haul a lot of weight and trailer plus travel a lot of hills in city traffic. So, I hope the Marlin holds up longer than the China component. That job's a biotch.
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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 01:03 PM
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that job's a biotch.
awesome, thats pretty much what i wanted to hear, and no, its not slipping.

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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 05:23 PM
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awesome, thats pretty much what i wanted to hear, and no, its not slipping.
yeah i just did mine, took some man-handlin'.
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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 05:56 PM
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stock clutch 1995 toyota 4runner 22re 220000km wheeled it once and it went
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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 05:57 PM
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hehehe... when i went to go buy my truck, my dad test drove it, and told me that the clutch was going on it... when i went to drive it home, the clutch let loose on me while i was doing 65 on the freeway... lol...
back on topic...
buddy of mine has an 85 p/u with the original clutch and 224k on the odo... guy who owned my 4runner before me went thru a clutch every 2 years...
guess its all in the way you drive...
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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 06:01 PM
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I have 208k+ on my factory clutch. It grabs like new still.
I wheel it hard, I run oversized tires undergeared, and
NO highway travel. It's fine. I actually know how to drive
a manual transmission and use a clutch properly. That has
everything to do with it.
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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Swansen
awesome, thats pretty much what i wanted to hear, and no, its not slipping.
Awe man, I'm sorry Swansen. I was just shootin' off the cuff. I didn't think about how you or anyone would respond.

Bear in mind, it was the middle of Jan with the ground frozen and 34* outside. My gloves were sticking to anything metal and I'd hurt my back real bad in a wreck. Plus, I didn't have a real tranny jack, was using a heater unit under the truck to stay warmer, and I was solo through most of the procedure. So, I may be just a little jaded in my experience.


Overall, getting the tranny lined up to reinstall is the hard part. Just have someone to help at this point and, f at all possible, avoid doing this in the winter and it should be a lot more pleasant....

BUT!! Since it's not slipping, that's GRRREAT! news! See...I can be positive and encouraging! Big hug!!!
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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by nix4x4
I have 208k+ on my factory clutch. It grabs like new still.
I wheel it hard, I run oversized tires undergeared, and
NO highway travel. It's fine. I actually know how to drive
a manual transmission and use a clutch properly. That has
everything to do with it.
Unress yur crutch isss frum CHINA!!!

I know how to drive one, too. There are really just some cheap clutches out there.
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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 01:09 AM
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Originally Posted by thook
Unress yur crutch isss frum CHINA!!!
HAHAHA

Originally Posted by thook
Awe man, I'm sorry Swansen. I was just shootin' off the cuff. I didn't think about how you or anyone would respond.
ha, no, its all good, it didn't like ruin my day or anything, but i know this mechanic, and he usually battles me in every opportunity about my truck (all in good humor) and he was like there is NO friggin way i'm going to help you with that clutch, that will be a PITA. (just random talk one day) I was just like whatever, it probably won't even be that big of a deal.... lol... turns out i lost that argument.
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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 03:59 AM
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I have 223k on my 2002 4x4 and works fine......
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Old Aug 31, 2008 | 07:48 AM
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i sold my 94 reg cab last year with 394,000 miles original clutch included. Never had one problem with it.
Its why I took the cash from the sale of that truck, poured over the internet for an extended cab of the same year and bought one. I love these trucks!!
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Old Sep 1, 2008 | 11:26 AM
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we just replaced the original clutch on my uncles 85 a while ago and it had around 220k on it
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Old Sep 1, 2008 | 12:12 PM
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As others have said, how long a clutch can last depends on what you do to it. Like how long does a tube of tooth paste or a bar of soap last.

I have a 1988 22R 2WD 5sp that I have owned for 19 years. I drive it as you would a car, on the street, and don't tow anything. I replaced the clutch 19 years ago because the pedal felt funny, mushy. With the new clutch in, the pedal felt just like before. This was my first truck and I was use to sports cars. Turned out that is the way they are supposed to feel. Waste of time replacing the clutch.

19 years and 126,000 miles later I had my transmission rebuilt to replace a noisy bearing. I went by the shop to look at the transmission in boxes, and to look at my 19 year old clutch. Plenty of life left. But I had the shop put in a new clutch anyway. The new clutch is "mushy" as was the 2 prior clutches. Guess one of these days I will get use to a truck clutch....

The week after the Toyota was done I had the clutch replaced on my Boxster with 67,000 miles on the original clutch. Now that clutch was down to the rivets.

I have been driving legally for 37 years. Learned on a stick. Never owned an automatic.


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