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Old Feb 22, 2015 | 04:12 AM
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clutch won't release

Hey guys I've read similar post and took the advice given there but problem is still there my clutch won't release I have a new master slave rubber hose and hard lime ran almost a quart of fluid through it trying to get bled used asin parts I haven't took the clutch mounting plate out yet but looks like it's been welded before have adjustment rod adjusted as far as it can go has new shifter seat and socket but press clutch and won't go into gear
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Old Feb 22, 2015 | 05:09 AM
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Did the clutch bracket break??

If it is not the Clutch Hydraulics then it is sorry to say most likely The clutch itself.

Be sure to double check every thing before starting to pull the transmission out.
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Old Feb 22, 2015 | 05:32 AM
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Have you been able to put it in gear since you installed the new seat?
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Old Feb 22, 2015 | 06:14 AM
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Will go into gear with engine shut off but won't fully release when I replaced the seat I don't replace socket had wrong part and parts store had already closed
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Old Feb 22, 2015 | 06:15 AM
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I'll have to pull the bracket out out and check it may be a factory weld I saw
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Old Feb 22, 2015 | 07:59 AM
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You don`t need to pull the bracket unless you really want to.

Getting into position to remove the bracket just push the pedal with your hand easy to see the bracket flex if it is broken.

Have a helper push the clutch while watching to see if the clutch Fork is moving like it should.
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Old Feb 22, 2015 | 01:03 PM
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The clutch fork moves about 1 1/2 to 2 inches haven't actually measured bracket dosent look like it's broken. How bad is the clutch fork about breaking?
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Old Feb 22, 2015 | 01:11 PM
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I would think pretty rare with all the Toyota 4x4`s built
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Old Feb 22, 2015 | 01:31 PM
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Is it possible that the clutch fork pivot ball broke?
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Old Feb 22, 2015 | 01:40 PM
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Did you adjust the master pushrod freeplay to 1mm-5mm when you put the master in? Is this a new clutch too?
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Old Feb 23, 2015 | 07:34 AM
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Old clutch don't know how many miles are on it pedal is adjusted as far as I can go and still has to much free play I'm gonna pull the tranny in the next day or so I'm thinking the clutch is bad it's pretty much the only thing left but no money wasted everything I replaced needed it
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Old Feb 23, 2015 | 07:35 AM
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Next question how do I know what clutch to buy the truck is a 90 Idk what year the engine and trans are it's got a 22r in it 5spd 2wd

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Old Feb 23, 2015 | 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by cb'sYOYO
Old clutch don't know how many miles are on it pedal is adjusted as far as I can go and still has to much free play I'm gonna pull the tranny in the next day or so I'm thinking the clutch is bad it's pretty much the only thing left but no money wasted everything I replaced needed it
If you can't adjust the excess freeplay at the master, there's your problem.
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Old Feb 23, 2015 | 07:51 AM
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When yall are measuring free play are you measuring to the point that there is some resistance or to when you can feel the throw out bearing engage the clutch fingers
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Old Feb 23, 2015 | 07:54 AM
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FSM...

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Old Feb 23, 2015 | 09:07 AM
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Thanks for the pic I'll have to measure everything tonight
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Old Feb 28, 2015 | 02:08 AM
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Well pulled the trans out clutch was completely gone absolutely no friction material left the throw out bearing shot and pilot bearing also shot have the clutch kit ready to go in but the clutch fork pivot ball is also broke where can I get a new pivot ball I've not been able to find one on line
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Old Feb 28, 2015 | 06:27 AM
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Used or maybe the dealer.

You know with all these Clutches I changed on these never once did the free play need adjusted.
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Old Feb 28, 2015 | 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by wyoming9
Used or maybe the dealer.

You know with all these Clutches I changed on these never once did the free play need adjusted.
It only needs to be checked if you replace the clutch master cylinder.

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Old Feb 28, 2015 | 04:43 PM
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Well after driving for 6 hrs round trip to get the only pivot ball in the state of ky I'm about to go pit everything back together I'll let yall know how it works out
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