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Old 12-16-2008, 07:39 PM
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Back to tires for a moment. Here's a thread about 32x9.5 r16 ( 235/85r16):

https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f177...rip-ii-160254/
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I have Multi-mile Arctic Claw winter tires 31x10.50 sold by Kaltire in BC (very close to Cooper M&S and made by Cooper under contract I think). They are reasonably priced compare to the more popular tires (Blizzak etc). I also got them studded. They are great, night and day difference between any all season tires. All season tires that can be run in the summer are too hard for traction on ice and snow. If you have a softer tread then contact pressure is not as huge a requirement as construction, although these do have "fairly" large voids and grooves as well which does increase contact pressure some.

Once you drive around in the ice with these in 2wd and compare to all-season tires in 2wd, you will judge the contact issue to be non-existent.

http://www.tbcprivatebrands.com/mult...ne.asp?id=247#
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Originally Posted by chubbydude
I have Multi-mile Arctic Claw winter tires 31x10.50 sold by Kaltire in BC (very close to Cooper M&S and made by Cooper under contract I think). They are reasonably priced compare to the more popular tires (Blizzak etc). I also got them studded. They are great, night and day difference between any all season tires. All season tires that can be run in the summer are too hard for traction on ice and snow. If you have a softer tread then contact pressure is not as huge a requirement as construction, although these do have "fairly" large voids and grooves as well which does increase contact pressure some.

Once you drive around in the ice with these in 2wd and compare to all-season tires in 2wd, you will judge the contact issue to be non-existent.

http://www.tbcprivatebrands.com/mult...ne.asp?id=247#
Those tires are cute, but unimpressive. I say get your outer lugs studded and your inner ones siped! woo hoo! double super duper tires!
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Originally Posted by chubbydude
I have Multi-mile Arctic Claw winter tires 31x10.50 sold by Kaltire in BC (very close to Cooper M&S and made by Cooper under contract I think). They are reasonably priced compare to the more popular tires (Blizzak etc). I also got them studded. They are great, night and day difference between any all season tires. All season tires that can be run in the summer are too hard for traction on ice and snow. If you have a softer tread then contact pressure is not as huge a requirement as construction, although these do have "fairly" large voids and grooves as well which does increase contact pressure some.

Once you drive around in the ice with these in 2wd and compare to all-season tires in 2wd, you will judge the contact issue to be non-existent.

http://www.tbcprivatebrands.com/mult...ne.asp?id=247#



Wow, those are quite aggressive for a snow tire, and may work other stuff (not snow). I like it. THe benefit to the narrow tires is that you can run them year round and still get decent tread wear. That said how much did those set you back? Around Vancouver, we only get snow occasionally, but I do weekend trips to snowy areas.

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Woot, snow is here! I have already hit two curbs.... Stupid mud tires
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4Runners are too top heavy to be all that much "fun" (ie: donuts) in the snow.
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Here's one option. Looks like it would well suit my needs year round. Its a 235/85r16 (32x9.5R16). I could get away without immediately regearing this way.

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Hey Matt have you looked at the retreads? Treadwright makes some damn good tires, I've got 7000 miles on mine and they show almost no wear at all and you can buy them studded. Just a thought that might help you save some money.
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For snow and ice nothing beats a dedicated winter tire, that is why it is the law now in Quebec, Sweden, Finland etc. If you think your current 10.5 width all season tires suck, I don't think a 9.5 width will make a noticeable improvement in the snow and ice although they may be a bit better when they are just new.

The Arctic Claws were around $170 +- and $20 for studding, I am not exactly sure since it was a year ago. Call up Kaltire or stop by one and see what they suggest (9.5 or 10.5) and check the prices and look at the Arctic Claws, the tread depth is 19/32.

But since you live in Vancouver, an all-season would be a good bet except for days like today. I am from the interior, so I think the money is very well spent, and I will never run all-seasons on any vehicle in the winter again.
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Originally Posted by Junkers88
Hey Matt have you looked at the retreads? Treadwright makes some damn good tires, I've got 7000 miles on mine and they show almost no wear at all and you can buy them studded. Just a thought that might help you save some money.
Yeah, those 235/85r16s are Treadwrights, the ATD pattern with Ultragrip specifically.

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Originally Posted by chubbydude
For snow and ice nothing beats a dedicated winter tire, that is why it is the law now in Quebec, Sweden, Finland etc. If you think your current 10.5 width all season tires suck, I don't think a 9.5 width will make a noticeable improvement in the snow and ice although they may be a bit better when they are just new.

The Arctic Claws were around $170 +- and $20 for studding, I am not exactly sure since it was a year ago. Call up Kaltire or stop by one and see what they suggest (9.5 or 10.5) and check the prices and look at the Arctic Claws, the tread depth is 19/32.

But since you live in Vancouver, an all-season would be a good bet except for days like today. I am from the interior, so I think the money is very well spent, and I will never run all-seasons on any vehicle in the winter again.

If I were anywhere in Canada but Vancouver or Victoria, I'd think more seriously about a winter tread, but on a student budget buying tires meant for less than 20 days a year likely won't happen for a while.
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Originally Posted by Matt16
If I were anywhere in Canada but Vancouver or Victoria, I'd think more seriously about a winter tread, but on a student budget buying tires meant for less than 20 days a year likely won't happen for a while.
I would think about the Toyo A/T Open country. Great on the snow and ice. HAve them for the the spring summer fall months now. Used to use them in the snow but now i have the studded bighorn radials because i am in it a lot more because of where i am going to school.

Oh by the way matt, I only lost about one MPG switching to the muds and running them at a lower pressure. I am running about 34 psi in the muds, when i was running 42 pounds in the A/T's.
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^^ I run the Toyo Open Country 225/75/15 right now. They're not too bad in snow. I've definitely had some better winter tires, but the Toyos handle loose stuff pretty well.
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If anyone has been paying attention to the snowstorm out west, here in Flagstaff my 235-75 treadwright AT`s (similar pattern to oldschool Wrangler AT`s, not the BFG AT pattern) are doing great. There is an amazing amount of siping on the treadwrights, and I wouldn`t hesitate to run their 235-85-16 AT`s if-when I get Taco rims & regear...
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Originally Posted by Matt16
4Runners are too top heavy to be all that much "fun" (ie: donuts) in the snow.
never say never. hahah yeah they are a bit, but that is what my go kart is for. hehehhehe

Grooved rear tires, turned up briggs 5 horse, and a straight axle. good snow fun right there. I will get a video and picture up of some snow driving tomorrow. I am having some fun this year.
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^^ I run the Toyo Open Country 225/75/15 right now. They're not too bad in snow. I've definitely had some better winter tires, but the Toyos handle loose stuff pretty well.
well, that small of a tire is going to be a lot tighter of a pattern and probably a P-rated (passenger rated) which has shallower tread and tighter tread blocks. When you have the LT rated and a size like 31x10.50-15 (i have these). Until i moved over the mountains for school, I used the Toyo's for everything, wheeling, summer and winter driving. They worked great, only got stuck once and that was because of lack of a locker. The tread really opens up and performs well. My dad has the 235/85-16 on his truck and they are great as well. We both have the extra siping in the tires which really helps on the ice.
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never say never. hahah yeah they are a bit, but that is what my go kart is for. hehehhehe

Grooved rear tires, turned up briggs 5 horse, and a straight axle. good snow fun right there. I will get a video and picture up of some snow driving tomorrow. I am having some fun this year.
I want to see this thing, sounds wicked fun.
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Originally Posted by Matt16
I want to see this thing, sounds wicked fun.
I hadn't grooved the tires yet in this picture, but other than that it is still basically the same.





Best thing about it, It was free!
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LOL love it. I want to see reckless driving WITH the trailer attached!
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iv got an 11hp motor sitting in the garage, i wish i could get something like that to throw that motor in.


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