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Old Jun 18, 2009 | 11:48 AM
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if this is going to be your first time building something with no instructions then the project should not be reinventing the wheel when it doesnt need to be done. now i can understand wanting to do something different and new and challenge yourself but vehicle manufactures have already conquered this task by making auto transmissions. why go through the headache, hassle, time, and money to do something that has already been done and perfected? many people have gone the other direction from auto to manual so doing the opposite shouldnt be much more difficult. hell, you might find someone in your area that is willing to swap you for your stuff and save you a good amount of money.
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Old Jun 18, 2009 | 11:56 AM
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I found the pirate thread. Idk if they found anything I didnt read the whole thing.

http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=795192
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Old Jun 18, 2009 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Robert m
if this is going to be your first time building something with no instructions then the project should not be reinventing the wheel when it doesnt need to be done. now i can understand wanting to do something different and new and challenge yourself but vehicle manufactures have already conquered this task by making auto transmissions. why go through the headache, hassle, time, and money to do something that has already been done and perfected? many people have gone the other direction from auto to manual so doing the opposite shouldnt be much more difficult. hell, you might find someone in your area that is willing to swap you for your stuff and save you a good amount of money.

It's not my first time, I was making a small joke. I've done lots of electrical and machine engineering projects. Just nothing complex like this.
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Old Jun 18, 2009 | 12:28 PM
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Then you would have one beefy forearm from holding the clutch in. Well maybe you already have one beefy forearm from another "hobby"...
are you saying ol' Popeye was ambidextrous?
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Old Jun 18, 2009 | 01:46 PM
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Easy,
LVDT (analog) style button + stepper motor controller + ballscrew + stepper motor (maybe a gear box) = electric clutch. How does $1000 sound?

Or $100 automatic trans............
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Old Jun 18, 2009 | 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Flash319
Easy,
LVDT (analog) style button + stepper motor controller + ballscrew + stepper motor (maybe a gear box) = electric clutch. How does $1000 sound?

Or $100 automatic trans............
If I could find a $100 auto tranny....i'd prefer that route. But everyone where i live has stick.
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Old Jun 18, 2009 | 03:30 PM
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Technically you're just balancing your legs out. You're putting strain on your knees lifting off the throttle and hitting the brakes too.
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Old Jun 18, 2009 | 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by DupermanDave
If I could find a $100 auto tranny....i'd prefer that route. But everyone where i live has stick.
I got one I will sell ya for $100. You gotta come get it though.....
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Old Jun 18, 2009 | 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Flash319
I got one I will sell ya for $100. You gotta come get it though.....
The trip alone would make the tranny cost $500
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Old Jun 18, 2009 | 08:34 PM
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Slushboxes are for wimps Real men and women drive stick, whatever it takes... besides stick is better in the mountains and for fuel econ.

Have the motorcycle lever cable attached to the control lever for a hydrolic ram attached to the clutch master. The force feedback through the ram/lever should allow you to feel when the clutch engages and allow you to slip it when needed as long as the cable is set tight enough. Basically the same idea as the hydolic feedback feel on a backhoe/excavator.

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Old Jun 19, 2009 | 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by aviator
Slushboxes are for wimps Real men and women drive stick, whatever it takes... besides stick is better in the mountains and for fuel econ.

Have the motorcycle lever cable attached to the control lever for a hydrolic ram attached to the clutch master. The force feedback through the ram/lever should allow you to feel when the clutch engages and allow you to slip it when needed as long as the cable is set tight enough. Basically the same idea as the hydolic feedback feel on a backhoe/excavator.
to make it even easier, you could use a universal hydraulic motorcycle clutch that would attach to the old chunk of the clutch pedal that would operate the stock master cylinder. There is a multitude of ways to make this easier, the difference here is that you are trying open a clutch with 900 pounds of shutting force or more (depending on the clutch) you would need a long lever.

have you tried pushing the clutch by hand? let alone using your grip to pull the clutch in? also look at how long the lever is that your leg is using to pull the clutch in with an hydraulic system, which can make it easier too. I am still kind of wondering why? do you have an injury and don't want it to flare up again, or something? the only things that i see reasonable on shifters, are gear spitters, jake brakes, and throttles. if you don't want to do the clutch with your foot, get an auto. to get the same power from your grip that your leg was exerting, would almost impossible with out a really long lever on the motorcycle grip that i don't think you would be able to get your hand around.

good luck with whatever you do.

alex
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Old Jun 19, 2009 | 09:20 AM
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you "switch to an automatic" guys take all the fun out of it.

I'm still looking online for an auto transmission I can swap in, but in the meantime I'm also looking for parts to do this project. Whichever I find first I'll go with.
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