22re surging problem SOLVED!
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Surging idle when break applied. Sneaky throttle cable.
I've had this exact problem before. As odd as it sounds, I'm willing to bet that it's because your throttle is not returning all the way back to the stop when you let off the gas. Stepping on the brake pedal is not the cause at all, it just magnifies the situation. I kind of found it by accident. When mine started acting up, I got my wife to hold the brake pedal while I looked under the hood. I started moving vacuum lines and then I noticed the throttle wasn't on the stop so I pushed it closed and problem solved! The brake booster is designed to work with the throttle closed as this is when max vacuum occurs. If it is slightly open, then essentially the booster becomes an open circuit and all kinds of funky stuff happens with the ecm, maf, and tps. Make sure the throttle cable/linkage is free and lubed up well so when you let off the pedal the throttle goes back to the stop and then your problem should be gone!
When I finally found that the throttle wasn't seating, I thought the throttle body was sticky. So, I cleaned the **** out of it. It was super dirty, so it was needed, but it only "fixed" the surging for about two days.
Finally, last night, I realized (while working on something else) that my throttle cable was routed with one sweeping curve and one small/pinched curve. I mean, yeah, go ahead and haze me for that one. It's just sitting right there on top of the engine for everyone to see. It's so obvious that I just never thought about it. It was creating just enough tension/friction in that smaller curve that the springs couldn't get the plate to come down that last little bit. The linkage was also full of dust, causing the cable end to see a just touch of pushback when it was trying to wrap around the curve.
So, I balanced out the curves in the cable, made a nice, clean "S" shape, wire brushed the linkage, and hit the end of the cable with a little light grease. Boom. Done. No more surging.
Now, I'm no expert on these old computers, but it seems that they don't like the idea of throttle and brake at the same time. Apparently, doing so throws them into some kind of temper tantrum mode. Poor little First Gen 4Runners sound like they're sobbing when they get the surge going.
Last edited by JoelPElliott; Nov 10, 2025 at 08:28 AM.
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