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Old Oct 7, 2010 | 02:29 PM
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Exclamation 22re shaving the flywheel!!! anyone do this?

I am replacing the clutch in my 89 toy, ill be installing a zoom kevlar MF clutch and a zoom OEM style flywheel (instead of bringing it to napa and chancing them ruin the stock one and my new clutch for $40). i wanted to buy an aluminum lightweight flywheel but the cheapest one i could find is a Fidanza flywheel fer $300 at a weight of 9.5lbs and the one i ordered was only $58 and itll cost roughly $100 or less to have it machined. i did some research on shaving flywheels and was wondering if any of you have ever done this or have any experience on this topic. Im planning on bringing it to a local machine shop to have it shaved and balanced and ide like to get it down to around atleast 15lbs er less if possible seeing as the stock ones are 25lbs... any help or advice will be appriciated
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Old Oct 7, 2010 | 02:33 PM
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You would be messing with thickness and clearances, not only that but the thinner it is the weaker and more prone to warping.... I would just have it resurfaced and call it good. If you really want light weight.. buy one that is made that way.
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Old Oct 7, 2010 | 02:35 PM
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why shave it? Quicker revs I assume ?
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Old Oct 7, 2010 | 02:39 PM
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Bad idea. That's something drag racers and circle track guys do. What...to rev a little quicker?

Don't do it...use oem.
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Old Oct 7, 2010 | 02:39 PM
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why shave it? Quicker revs I assume ?
yep, i didnt make my truck for crawling so i dont need all the excess weight for more torque.
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Old Oct 7, 2010 | 02:41 PM
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You will make it even harder to pull out.

As long as you stay on the black top or dirt roads you will be fine.

If this was in a high horsepower street car yea it will be better in a truck it is a step in the wrong direction.

Been there and learned the hard way I wish you were closer I would let you drive a Celica with a light flywheel then the stock one.
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Old Oct 7, 2010 | 02:43 PM
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You will make it even harder to pull out.

As long as you stay on the black top or dirt roads you will be fine.

If this was in a high horsepower street car yea it will be better in a truck it is a step in the wrong direction.

Been there and learned the hard way I wish you were closer I would let you drive a Celica with a light flywheel then the stock one.
i didnt make my truck for muddin and im planning on installing a turbo later on...i have a buddy that installed an aluminum flywheel in a stock 2wd 22re truck and it made it much peppier with alot more top end.

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Old Oct 7, 2010 | 02:46 PM
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Old Oct 7, 2010 | 02:47 PM
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Flywheels create nothing, its sort of an antistall device.
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Old Oct 7, 2010 | 02:54 PM
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Don't you think if it was a good idea....we all would be doing it here?

Sounds like you got your mind made up....
good luck.

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Old Oct 7, 2010 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Teuf
Flywheels create nothing, its sort of an antistall device.

well, not exactly. Lightened flywheels will take a load off the motor and have been known to allow for upper end power. Heavier flywheels are usually used to actually gain lower end grunt.

As another guy had pretty much said above, I am not so sure that you would notice anything with putting a lighter weight flywheel in a truck. There is a big difference between a celica and a pickup as far as weight goes. I would want as much torque as I could get in the truck.

Now if your stuck on the lighter weight flywheel I would not be removing material off any flywheel whatsoever. Do it the right way and get the Fidanza.

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Old Oct 7, 2010 | 03:07 PM
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thank you xxxtreme22r

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Old Oct 7, 2010 | 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by HighLux
Don't you think if it was a good idea....we all would be doing it here?

Sounds like you got your mind made up....
good luck.
It's not a good idea... For say the 4WD crowd which I'd say most of us here are.

It IS a good idea if say you're into desert pre-runner type rigs... Which the OP is...

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Old Oct 7, 2010 | 03:32 PM
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I agree, but like I had said I am not so sure your gonna see that weight benefit of the aluminum flywheel on a truck unless it's a full blown tube chassis/fiberglass rig. Yes he's lightened maybe some with the FG front clip and rear quarters, but I have also hear the FG fenders are not that much if any weight saving to begin with.

I would be going over to dezertrangers and see what those guys are running on a similar rig. Because most of us here are not and do not plan on using a lightened flywheel for the simple fact most of us are either crawlers or mud guys that need all the torque we can get.

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Old Oct 7, 2010 | 03:37 PM
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I had a "lightened" flywheel in my 90 22re 2wd truck. It didn't do much even though I had titanium rods, knife edged crank, different valves, an LSD, a hotter cam with headers and exhaust and street tires.

And having a flywheel lightened is not the same as taking it to some machine shop and telling them to make it "thinner"... in fact, if you do that, you will screw up your clutch. Lightening a flywheel is not cheap-- it cost 360 in 1999 when I had it done at a racing shop.

good luck, in the end your truck will still be slow. mine was slow and it was the fastest street legal 22re I have ever seen anywhere.
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Old Oct 7, 2010 | 03:37 PM
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well do it and do a write up let us know what you think. xxxtreme is right on though, with the idea of checking into dezert rangers those guys might have a better idea of what you getting into and if it has any benefit or not. We here, like tried said, tend towards the trail, rocks, slower going, offroad style. Good luck and post up what you find.
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Old Oct 7, 2010 | 05:37 PM
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I was in Kalispell a few weeks ago and saw your Yota on Reserve st. NICE TRUCK!!

I had a machine shop take some material off of an OEM 22RE Flywheel. They were able to get about 2 lbs of material off.
I *did* notice a difference even with that small amount removed. I was running 33" tires and 5.29's, and had a lot of motor work done. It was not a slow truck by any means. Lots of fun on logging roads and in the sand.

When I went to a 36x12.50 Swamper SX, things changed. It would stall fairly easily, so I went back to a heavier flywheel, smaller exhaust, and a lower RPM cam, which made the truck much more driveable with a heavy tire.
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Old Oct 7, 2010 | 05:54 PM
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I know this doesnt pertain to your flywheel but considering your situation i would like to add this in.

22re is a great motor for what it is, and it's not powerful. Dont waste time trying to build it. I recently did a 7mge swap on my rig. It was easy, cheap, and i am pleased with the results. It would also be relatively easy to install a 7mgte.
Once you get into the 7m motors you are looking at some actual power (still nothing incredible) not stressed out 4 banger power. The 22re was never made to be a powerhouse but it is damn trusty and simple. If you want some real power just do a swap.
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Old Oct 7, 2010 | 06:45 PM
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Lighting flywheels is for 427 Chevy's turning 10k rpm with High Horsepower and blowers , not much to gain for a 22re I did one on my rebuild (150 hp monster) and to tell you the truth I replaced it with a stock one and the bottom end grunt is far better I can actully leave off the line like a normal person even with my 35's.
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Old Oct 7, 2010 | 07:01 PM
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Im with algranger. 7m, 1jz, 2jz, something like that would work way better than trying to build the 22re. Its just not desert race truck material

AND when your trying to build up your motor, lightening your flywheel shouldnt be at the top of the list.

I love the truck though, it will look great with new tires. You need to get a tire mount for the bed and lose the tailgate
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