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Old Nov 29, 2008 | 07:43 PM
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If you look at the truck the way abecedarian does, the left front wheel and the left rear wheel are on two different sides. (standing in front of the truck and standing behind the truck) Anybody that works on cars for a living (mechanic, body, anything) tells you left and right from the drivers seat.
nope... and you should not be painting with such a broad brush.
If I was working on a right-hand drive vehicle and the driver told me the driver's rear wheel, I would not think it was the right wheel when standing in front of the vehicle. position and description are important. Point of view is imperative.

If I had never come across these issues, I would not be bringing them up now. So, consider that.

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Old Nov 29, 2008 | 07:46 PM
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It's not a matter of driver side /pass side,its a matter of left side/ right side from in the truck looking forward.
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Old Nov 29, 2008 | 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by abecedarian
nope... and you should not be painting with such a broad brush.
If I was working on a right-hand drive vehicle and the driver told me the driver's rear wheel, I would not think it was the right wheel when standing in front of the vehicle. position and description are important. Point of view is imperative.
I wasnt talking about driver side and passenger side. I said sitting in the driver seat, left or right.

Its ok bud, your right (correct)
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Old Nov 29, 2008 | 07:47 PM
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The problem is that I knew the answer to the question before I even asked it. My perfectionist self can't accept that there is something messed up when I am making a repair but at the same time I have to have the truck on the road. I agree most old tchains guide stubs are sitting in the oil pan, bigblock, but at the same time jasond I agree, if something is wrong make it right. I was just hoping to finish it this weekend and have it on the road, running, OK, and fix it in the future. Just needed some reassurance from guys at yotatech. Thats all.
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Old Nov 29, 2008 | 07:53 PM
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I can assure you it is fine.But fix it right,you'll sleep better.
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Old Nov 29, 2008 | 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Bigblock
It's not a matter of driver side /pass side,its a matter of left side/ right side from in the truck looking forward.
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would those both not be correct? regardless of which side of the truck I'm in, if I'm in any particular seat, looking forward, right is right and left is left?
This argument is irrelevant.

If I'm standing in front of the 22r/re truck, the alternator is on the right. The slack side of the cam chain is on the left. telling me the slack side is on the right without giving me a frame of reference does not make it correct.

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Old Nov 29, 2008 | 08:01 PM
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You mentioned a right hand drive.
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Old Nov 29, 2008 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Bigblock
You mentioned a right hand drive.
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not in reference to the vehicle we SHOULD BE discussing.
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Old Nov 29, 2008 | 08:10 PM
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YOU said a mouthful then!
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Old Nov 29, 2008 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Bigblock
You mentioned a right hand drive.
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Originally Posted by abecedarian
not in reference to the vehicle we SHOULD BE discussing.

and in the mean time, you and I (and some others) are arguing semantics when we should be helping the OP resolve problems.

So... the guide is broke. Personally, I would replace it if for no other reason than knowing it was good when *I* put the engine together.
If it's on the tensioner side of the block (left when standing in front of the engine), I may give it a pass, but for the sake of state of mind, I'd probably replace it.
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Old Nov 29, 2008 | 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Bigblock
YOU said a mouthful then!
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and you said?
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Old Nov 29, 2008 | 08:15 PM
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It wouldn't bother me one bit to run it that way forever.
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Old Nov 29, 2008 | 08:24 PM
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It wouldn't bother me one bit to run it that way forever.
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so, tell that to the OP who was genuinely concerned about his timing chain and guides.
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Old Nov 29, 2008 | 08:26 PM
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I did way back in the evening.Evidently its OUR thread now.Thread thief.LOL
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Old Nov 29, 2008 | 08:26 PM
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i would replace it you should be able to remove the timing cover without removing the head gasket, you will have to drop the oil pan however and it will be a pia to keep from wrinkling the part of the head gasket that goes over the timing cover but it is possible to do and beats pulling the head again.
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Old Nov 29, 2008 | 08:29 PM
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Oil pan comes off easier than the head.Next time run a 3/8 extension through the hole in the cam sprocket then tighten the bolt.
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Old Nov 29, 2008 | 08:30 PM
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oh wait you said:
Isn't the pass side piece the long one from top to bottom?How much of it broke?
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https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f116.../#post50984583

I guess, if you were the driver of a right hand drive truck, the 'long side' would be on the passenger side, but in a left hand drive truck, the 'long side' is on the drivers side.

So...


choosing engine sides based on looking at the engine from the front would've removed all doubt.

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Old Nov 29, 2008 | 08:33 PM
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You screwed it up not me.
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Old Nov 29, 2008 | 08:36 PM
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I asked for directions based on looking at the engine from the front...
you persisted in determining 'direction' based on the driver.
You, through posts you made, made it clear that you cannot determine positions on the engine based on the drivers' position...
... and then claim I screwed it up?

okay fine.
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Old Nov 29, 2008 | 08:39 PM
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Actually I did screw up.The right (pass) side is not the tesioner side.
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