Hey guys, I think my issue is the water pump, but look herE:

I was driving on the highway to Yakima, WA from Spokane, WA and lost power. I downshifted thinking it was the hill I was on. I maintained for a few minutes and shifted up again, lost power again, so I pulled off the road. Engine started steaming. I popped the hood, coolant is everywhere. My initial reaction is a hose, but I only found one hose that was not clamped down, and I don't think it is supposed to be. On the left side of the engine, sitting on top of the wheel well there is a black cylinder, with two hoses coming in the top, and one hose coming out the bottom. I think the hose coming out the bottom is an overflow or something, so I think the hose should be free. Anyways, while messing around there I turned the truck back on and found the steam was coming from the water pump, saw the belt was off the fan clutch, and grabbed the fan. The shaft from the pump to the fan is loose, I don't know if it is broke, but I think it is. I have bought a new water pump and will drive out to the truck tomorrow [60 miles down the highway ] but want to know if that is the problem, will swapping the water pump fix the issue, or will I have to replace the fan clutch too? I could not get good enough pictures to upload, it was night. Thanks in advance for any ideas.

 

The black cylinder is the charcoal canister. Get the pump and clutch, cause its possible the clutch caused the shaft failure.

 

And your radiator escape damage too? man you're luckier than i am.
when my waterpump said goodbye, i had to buy a new radiator, a reman cylinder head and head gasket set.

yeah, it was an expensive waterpump.

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85 Toyota p/u 4X4 SBC 327
(and it's too damn powerful)

99 Toyota 4-Runner 4X4
(wifeys)

69 Kaiser Jeepster Commando 4X4
(27k original miles, my daily driver)

 

OK, water pump swap was successful, although it was a pain in the ass, Couldnt pull the fan so I had to pull out the radiator too. Radiator has a tiny bit of damage from the fan, but nothing to bad. Anyways, so I drain the rad, swap the pump, put it all back, fill up with coolant. I read somewhere to top the radiator off until the coolant is above the metal inside, but not filled. Did that, and then put some in the coolant container. Heres where the problem is...I start itup. It almost turns on, but no dice. I try for a minute or so, pop the hood. Coolant everywhere, it overflowed, alot. So I am above the full line, and coolant on the ground. I keep trying to start it until my battery dies [im dumb I know. miss my truck] and get a jump. No dice on the start, even though it gets SOOO close a few times. Will a overfilled radiator stop me from starting?? I want to get my truck fixed because I am stranded 200 miles from home, thanks in advance again.

 

Its turning over fine, I am thinking it is spark plugs? I don't think they could have gotten wet or corroded just from an overheat, but coolant did go everywhere... I don't want to tow it, its 70 mils from a town

 

did you watch your temp guage? check your oil. I'm hoping you didnt blow the head gasket. what motor? sounds like 4 banger if you can get to the water pump easy. I guess if you think water got everywhere, i'd say pull the distributer cap and make sure its dry. Fill radiator to the bottom of the fill neck but make sure the block is full. you could pull the top hose from the radiator and use that as a funnel to fill the motor. good luck man

 

22REC, I didn't check the temp gauge, didnt think, its been sitting 2 days and its cold. Was darkw hen I tried to check the plugs so I quit and went home, I know im overdue for an oil change anyway, but could that make it not start? I am thinking about just buying a new set of plugs and some oil. How do I check if the head gasket is blown, and is that expensive?

 

i say to check the oil for water/ peanut butter like stuff, usually on the underside of the oil cap. that will let you know its now a head gasket issue or if when you get it running look for a plume of white smoke coming from the tail pipe. First check the oil, pull the cap off the distributer and make sure its dry. If its wet it wont run. And if the head gasket is blown.. thats a big deal, and usually expensive.

 

Hey votum..
was coolant blowing out of the radiator (cap off) when you were cranking over the engine?
if it does this, the head gasket's blown man... sorry!

Mike
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85 Toyota p/u 4X4 & matching trailer
SBC 327 (and its too damn powerful)

99 Toyota 4-Runner 4X4
(wifeys)

69 Kaiser Jeepster Commando 4X4
(27k original miles, my daily driver)

 

Mike, do you mean that the cap blew itself off, or should I turn the engine over with the cap off the radiator? Coolant was coming out of the overflow only, the cap did not blow off at all, and no coolant leaked out from under the cap. It doesn't seem like the head gasket, I hope

 

What the issue could be, which is what they are getting at, is that if the headgasket blew, then your engine compression, rather than staying in the cylinders, is going into your coolant system, pressurizing you coolant system and causing it to overflow. Pull out oil dipstick and if the level is waaaay way up to the top and chocolate milk colored...or if there's oil in the coolant..same thing. Headgasket. If your water pump was going out and seized, no more water pump, so you overheat and blow the headgasket. If your belt was on really loose and just came off, no more water pump, you over heat, headgasket, etc.....

But hopefully that's not it.

 

ok guys, luckily ive got a pda phone so can post from the truck. just drained oil, it is long overdue. nice and thick though. coolant is green, no oil in it. im changing spark plugs now, ends are rusty. hopefully an oil change is all i nneed. ill update in a few minutes. any more ideas? seeeems like its not the gasket cuz the oils very thick and coolant is neon green.

 

ok. pulled the plugs, they were wet. looks to be oil, but not positive, is that bad?

 

Sorry votum... i meant with the radiator cap off the radiator and not blowing it off!... my bad..

Well... i'll explain in "long story short".. whats occuring is the engine compression may have possibly blown thru and into the coolant passages in the cylinder head. thus, out the radiator or reservior tank. it may not have blown out the head gasket but warpage in the cylinder head itself may have occured during overheating.
as you stated, i read that steam was present near the water pump area?

votum.. your engine suffered a pretty bad overheat.

If you have a certified mechanic that you go to and trust, go to him and in person he'll explain more to you in detail of what just occurred. (its like a second opinion)...

sorry... Mike

 

anyone? wet spark plugs means that should be the issue right??? my rental car doesnt even have enough power to turn the truck over, even when i put a stick on the gas lol.
is it counter productive to buy a new battery?

 

think ill call my insurance co, have towing for 4 bucks to the nearest shop.. a tow truck should have enough juice to jump me too. if i sit with the rental on hooked to the truck does it charge the truck at all?

 

votum.. the wet plugs is probably the coolant or water in the cylinders soaking them.
Theres a compression leakover thats causing this.
and no.... the engine wont start.

Just have it towed to the shop.
or in fact... have it towed to my place! i live in Hawaii.... i have a brand new cylinder head here, ready to go!

Wish i was there to help you bud!
keep us posted on any progress of the repair work.

Mike

 

Thanks Mike, you've been a great help, I need to buy you a beer next time I am in Hawaii I am one fo those who was hit hard by the economy, got laid off my job as a project manager last week, unemployment is giving me hassles, and new jobs are harder to find then that one was Anyway, USAA will tow my truck for 4 dollars to the nearest shop, I have a rental that is getting an average of 30MPG [almost makes me want to buy a car] and hopefully a little shop in the tiny town of quincy will give me a good military discount on my repair job. I just rebuilt the tranny [2500] and have spent a few hundred trying to fix this myself Oh well, love the truck, I am just going to volunteer and deploy, buy a new engine, and call it good Quick question though, new 22RE costs only around 1000, is it worth it to buy a new motor? How hard is a engine swap on the truck? Thanks guys!

 

Uh... Apparently MUCH less than I though look here : http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Toyot...3A1|240%3A1318

 

Don't be afraid to ask your mechanic what it will cost for the repairs you need on the truck now.
get numbers $.
atleast this way, you'll know what works with your budget.

By the way, thats a really good price for rebuilt.
and the extra 100 bucks gets you a cylinder head w/new parts, man what a deal!
Round-up a few of your buddies, use of a driveway or a garage, get an engine hoist, metric and power tools.
you'll have this done in a weekend!

oh.. and dont forget the beer!

Mike
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85 Toyota p/u 4X4 & matching trailer
SBC 327 (and its too damn powerful)

99 Toyota 4-Runner 4X4
(wifeys)

69 Kaiser Jeepster Commando 4X4
(27k original miles, my daily driver)