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Old 09-03-2010, 06:29 PM
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I just installed the oil pressure sender the one that goes on the side of the block. I got it from pepboys for around 40 bucks. Funny thing is I hooked it up were everyone says not to hook it up and now it works... I think or did I just complete the circuit and it will act like it is working? When I turn the truck on it goes up and when I turn it off it slowly goes back down.

A-ron do you have a online vendor for the TC kit? Should I just go to the dealer?
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22R are the noisest engines i have ever heard im sure its fine if you set the rocker lash
then you, sir, have never heard an L-Head 134..
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Originally Posted by richf

A-ron do you have a online vendor for the TC kit? Should I just go to the dealer?
engnbldr.com probably has the best price for everything you need with quality parts.
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Originally Posted by peow130
then you, sir, have never heard an L-Head 134..
or a BMW M30 engine like I got in my 535i. you think 4 valves tapping are loud, try 6 lol.

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No I haven't!! I should have said "one of the noisest"

And Rich, go to www.engnbdlr.com great people great prices and free shipping!!!
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Originally Posted by toyota4x4907
engnbldr.com probably has the best price for everything you need with quality parts.
Thanks I just checked out the website. I think I'll be good to go for about 140.00.

Do you guys think it's a bad idea to drive this thing around for any period of time?
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i wouldn't
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I just re-read the valve adjustment procedures and noticed the 22r is 0 degrees TDC and the 22re is 5degrees BTDC. i did not set it to 5 degrees BTDC I used 0 degrees TDC. Do you think that could cause more noise than usual? I'll have to re do it tomorrow.
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not sure of the quality or how long it will last but i got my TC kit from e-bay.came with guides, tensioner, chain, gears, and the TC cover all brand new for $57.xx total and free shipping. satisfies my budget right now.
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Originally Posted by richf
I just re-read the valve adjustment procedures and noticed the 22r is 0 degrees TDC and the 22re is 5degrees BTDC. i did not set it to 5 degrees BTDC I used 0 degrees TDC. Do you think that could cause more noise than usual? I'll have to re do it tomorrow.
na unless is was way advanced like 20 degrees or something like that causing an engine ping, timing wouldn't cause it.

BTW: what kind of exhaust setup you got on that, it sounds pretty good.
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Where did you read that? I have always used 0* BTDC. Hm....
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yes carb'd 22r's are 0 BTDC, EFI 22re's and rec's are 5 BTDC and 22rte,. I am not sure.
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carb'd 22r uses vacuum advance, 22re uses electronic advance thats why you have to jump terminals to cancel the electric advance to set the timing
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Originally Posted by A-ron
carb'd 22r uses vacuum advance, 22re uses electronic advance thats why you have to jump terminals to cancel the electric advance to set the timing
That's correct, and you also need to remove and block off the hoses to a carb'd dizzy. But this is not why the timing specs are different.
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Originally Posted by xxxtreme22r
That's correct, and you also need to remove and block off the hoses to a carb'd dizzy. But this is not why the timing specs are different.
sorry, i should have explained myself a lil better, if a carb'd engine is timed at 0*TDC then the vacuum advance recconnected I believe it should read 14*BTDC as with EFI is timed with terminals jumped and set to 5*BTDC then terminals dissconnected it should read the same 14*BTDC.

And still this has always been my assumption so please correct me if I am wrong.
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I saw the 5 degree btdc in the factory service manual I got on the web.

I'll post a video of the exhaust tomorrow. I'm not going to lie it sounds pretty badass. I have know idea what kind of muffle it is the PO put it on there.
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So what you're saying is that when you set the engine to BTDC while adjusting the valves you're supposed to put it at 5* not 0*? Not the timing but while youre adjusting the valves?
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no. crack goes to TDC on the 0 mark on the #1 compression stroke not the exhaust stroke, you will know it's compression stroke because the #1 intake and exhaust valves will be loose.

ignition timing is completely different.
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Originally Posted by toyota4x4907
So what you're saying is that when you set the engine to BTDC while adjusting the valves you're supposed to put it at 5* not 0*? Not the timing but while youre adjusting the valves?
I just double checked and on page MA-7 in the factory service manual it states 0 degrees TDC for tuning a hot engine. I was looking at tuning a cold engine during rebuild. I'm not sure if it makes a difference.
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not for valves, not for ignition timing. hot or cold the crank gets put at TDC #1 compressionand and the ignition timing would still be 5 BTDC. with the diagnostic port jumpered.


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