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did i put the clutch plate in backwards, can you tell?

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Old 11-11-2010, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by live4soccer7
I almost have it out. It's fully disconnected from the engine, but just need to get it down the rest of the way.

Just curious, are you suppose to lower the engine when dropping the tranny? Just seems like you would, but maybe I missed it somewhere. I've got the tranny, transfer and most of the front driveshaft all in one shot. It's been interesting, to say the least.
no but you'll need to support the engine... or it'll smack into your firewall lol

Wouldn't the 4-6 springs on the clutch prevent you from installing the clutch backwards? because i think they would...
Old 11-11-2010, 07:35 PM
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nope, it will go on either way. I've tried with the one I have sitting aside. Just about the dumbest mistake I have made. EVER
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Most clutch disks say engine side! Just look on the metal around were the clutch sildes over the in put shaft!
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Thanks.... Here is what I have.

I believe I had it in correctly, but I think by pure luck. In the third photo you can see how the spline section in the middle sticks out more than the other side, this is what I referenced off of the other part clutch I had taken off. I believe that the one I took off ended up the reverse direction from how it came off, but looked similar to this one. So purely, by luck, I think it was on correctly. That doesn't really matter now though because I have it off again. Now I want to be sure that I put it on correctly this time. I want to KNOW that it is.
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Old 11-11-2010, 08:28 PM
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Now this is how it was installed. Is this correct? or should the disc be flipped around and put the other way?
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Originally Posted by 94toy4x4fever
Most clutch disks say engine side! Just look on the metal around were the clutch sildes over the in put shaft!
Not necessarily, I just put in a stock replacement Aisin clutch and there was no markings for front and back. I just noted that the flat part goes flat aginst the flywheel.
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Take a look at the photos I just put up. I think you just missed them as you were posting.
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Yea we posted at the same time...

It hard to tell in the picture, but the flat side should be facing up, which would go towards the flywheel.
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I understand that the "flat" side should face the flywheel. Are you referring to flat as being how far the splines come out or flat as in how far the springs stick out b/c they are pretty darn close on both sides as far as how much either item sticks out. Take a look at photo 2 and 3 (i believe second to last post in page 1). These are shots of both sides. Which side should face the flywheel?
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What everside has the sprigs extending out the furthest, should face the transmission. The side with the the springs "sunken" in a little should face the flywheel.
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So in photo one of the three photos in the same post, it is the side that is toward the bottom of the photo? I'm sorry, but I do not want to take this damn thing apart again. I about lit the damn rig on fire from frustration trying to get that tranny down today.
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Yep. the other side faces the tranny and will slide over the input shaft.

Just make sure your fork is hooked up correctly and that "pivot point" fits inside the spring clamp, not to mention the two clips on the release bearing hub. I would hate to see you take it all apart again.
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are you referring to the pivot point on the fork? If so, I've got all that covered. went step for step in the manual. Just somehow got this clutch thing confused, even though it, somehow, was on correctly.


Wait... you said... "Yep. the other side faces the tranny and will slide over the input shaft."

The bottom side of photo 1 faces the tranny. and the top side of photo 1 will face the flywheel. Installed as shown in photo the very last photo of page one.
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the side that sticks out (splines) should go towards the pressure plate. It's pretty hard to tell from the photos which side the springs are out more....
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then again... looking back over the photos it almost appears the springs protrude more on the side that the splines dont protrude out...

again.. really hard to tell. I've not seen a clutch disc like that before either.
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edit:

You posted up while I was posting.
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It is an Aisin clutch. Maybe a newer model or something, but it's from them and for this engine/tranny.
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Hey Soccer,...wow, what a headache, man! lol....... Sorry it happened, but good catchin it!

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Far as the kit... I believe the flatter side is the transmission side.... Read on my disc... see the writing on it? It's a real Osaka Japanese Daikin Exedy HD Clutch, and with this one, and EVERY one that I've seen, before or after, they ALWAYS have said, "TM side" on one side of the disc. See it? I'm assuming yours doesn't display any such thing on it?
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hey... nice to see you again. you're all over the place helpin me out. ha ha.

Looks exactly the same setup as mine though and that is the side that I had tranny side. I'll take a closer look. This is gonna make me never wanna change another damn clutch again. ha ha. PIA for a first time job, but lots learned and it won't stop me in the future. I'll take a closer look.
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Nope, no writing. At least none that shows which side.

I'm kind of curious as to how the clutch works exactly. I know there is the clutch fork that is pressed by the cylinder which allows the throw out bearing to come into contact with the clutch cover/plate. Assuming all of that is correct, what happens next?

Is the clutch disc pressed of of the splines which allows it to disengage or does the clutch disc become "loosened" (poor terminology) and allow it to spin separately from the flywheel?


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