Can you guys suggest some decent rock crawling tires? I was looking at the Interco Swamper Radials 31 x 9.5 but a friend of mine told me the swampers tend to get chunked on rocks. I need a tire with good rock traction and durability too. I'm looking at 31 x 9.5 or 10.5

And they are gonna go on an 84 pickup with stock gears and 22R, manual xmission.

 

how can you not know what decent tires are when you have over 1000 posts? And considering that there are like 12 different types of swampers it would kind of help if you narrowed it down. If you are only running stock height suspension without lockers and such i dont think you could wheel hard enough to really do any bad damage to tires.

 

I'm such a post whore it's disgusting.

I've not really gotten interested into rock crawling until I decided to buy an 84 pickup and sell my 90 4runner. I do plan on putting a rear ARB locker in the truck at some point in the future. I want to paint it first and get some good tires for it. Just hoping you had some suggestions.

 

well considering you have a stock truck you dont need to go to hardcore on the tires. Also being stock i assume you drive it everyday and are probably a weekend wheeler? Id recomend almost any of the mud terrains but not bfg. I work at les schwab and after seeing how much weight it takes to balance most of those things i will never buy them it tells you somethign abotu the quality when you have to add 4 onces of weight to each side of a brand new tire. You probably dont want to go swampers if you drive everyday. If its a dd there are alot of tires that will still ride ok but work great on the trail too. I like the goodyear mtr's, and the toyo mt's for dd/ trail trucks. Do a search there is a ton of info

 

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I was looking at the Firestone Destinations. I'm glad to hear someone likes them.

I've had Yokohama Geo AT+II's on my 4runner and really like them, but I want something a bit more aggressive.

Oh yeah, are Firestones made in USA? I'm sure they are but I don't want Chinese or Taiwanese tires.

 

MT/R. they work great on dry/desert rock...just have a look at what most people are crawling with on event coverage in 4WDTO. my 2nd choice (for crawling specifically) would be either iroks or krawlers...why? i dunno..they sound like cool tires

 

Don't know if he is right, but my local tire guy said that the only tires made in the US are Mastercraft/Cooper. He said all others were made out of the country, be it Mexico, Canada, or overseas. Again, I couldn't say for sure, just going on what he said. So far he hasn't steered me wrong yet.

 

The MTRs, or any mudder for that matter, are not very good at the all seasons part...snow specifically, BUT if you sipe the tires, they do suprisingly well.

I am getting a set of 33x1250x15 BFG Mud Terrains and they will be siped.

 

Well my Yoko's have stamped right on the side - Made in USA

 

mtr's arent a mud tire...theyre actually quite far from it...and dont perform all that well in the wet sloppy muddy mud. X2 on the siping if you want any sort of decent wet/snowy road traction. i could care less for on road performance

 

Well, there you go. He must be wrong. Besides, I would prefer to buy made in the US, but I'm going to go with what has the best warranty and has prooven to do well, within budget.

 

Personally, I like the Dayton Timberline MT's. They are a Bridgestone/Firestone product, they are fairly quiet for DD and have good groves for traction. They run mud very well, clean out fast and have This is the tire I will be running on my Runner:



Unique over-the-shoulder tread design
Provides confidence in off-road conditions.
Optimized lug angles
For outstanding mud traction and self-cleaning.
Rim Guard Off-Road Protector Rib
Helps deflect debris away from the bead area.
Heavy duty construction with three polyester body pies, two steel belts and a full nylon cap ply
Adds resistance to off-road hazards.
Available in a full range of sizes from flotation to "E" range commercial sizes.

Pinned for studs.
Extra grip in winter conditions.



Here is a link to a larger image: Dayton Timberline MT

John

 

the next time you go to a trail ask some of the hardcore veterans who have gone through a lot of tires and have experience. You can't always trust every bit of advice from forums . . .

 

4 ounces ain't nothin'.

My SuperSwamper TSL's (bias ply) took between 12-16 oz EACH (yes 1 pound per wheel).

The MTR's are quite sturdy for a radial, and they're pretty quiet on the road. My next tires will probably be Trxus M/T's though.

 

If you are DDing the truck, check out TrXus MT's, they are a swamper, but have a closer lug pattern and siping to be better for on road driving. I know a couple people running these on DD/trail rigs and they love them.

http://www.intercotire.com/site35.php

If you want a real swamper, you can't go wrong with a TSL, but they will be rough on the road. Any tire you put on the rocks will chunk a bit, it depends on the rocks and your driving though. I would be more worried about sidewalls than the tread though. Swampers have some really thick sidewalls.

If you are anywhere with mud or wet rock, I would skip the MTRs.

 

Chech these out.
http://www.4x4wire.com/reviews/pitbulls/

http://www.offroaders.com/tech/AT-MT...er_Extreme.htm

http://www.offroaders.com/tech/AT-MT..._Maddog_MT.htm

http://www.offroaders.com/tech/AT-MT...Growler_AT.htm

 

I assumed that he was looking for U.S. made tire based on this, but that what I get for assuming.

 

I posted my desire for US Made tires after Ric had given his advice already. Thanks Ric, and everyone else

 

I love my BFG M/T's on the rocks. I haven't had a problem with them yet. They aren't to loud on the street and they performed pretty well in the snow. MT/R's are pretty good, so I hear, but they were a little bit more than the BFG's so I went with the BFG's. Can't go wrong with the BFGoodrich Mud's

Actually my BFGoodrich M/T's and my brothers performed a lot better in the rain than my sipped Trxus M/T's I had. They totally sucked in the rain. My brother has my old 4Runner and the BFG's have never lost traction in the rain like my Trxus.