Charging system woes
#43
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thought I was clear on explaining this but i guess not. you'll figure it out with trial and error.
I dont remember the exact amerage I know the older alt is has a lower output.
good luck man
#45
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I hate junk yards!!!!!!!!!! I went to the 4 yards we have in town, they said that its included with the block!!! what is that about? Oh well, time to go out of town for parts. This is going to drive me crazy.
#46
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First off, thank you Plumbrbob and Pennywize for giving me some knowledge and motivation to do this. Also, a monstrous thanks to Jonnyboy for staying here helping me till 2 a.m., then getting home at about 3, and called to a fire at 6.
I just did the newer internal regulator conversion For my 84, and I'm happy to say- 14.48 volts steady. If you are having issues with your stock alternator and regulator, DO THIS CHANGE OVER!!! My battery gauge doesnt even move anymore when I have the blinkers or headlights on, the only way I could make it fluctuate was to have the headlights on, and the stereo thumping.
Below Is a short compilation of what we did to make this work, and the parts needed.
Parts-
1. Internally regulated alternator, In this case I used an 87 alt.
2. Lower bracket for said alternator.
3. Butt connectors 14-16 gauge
3. Shrink wrap
4. Some time
The hardest part of this swap was putting the new bracket back into the spot it mounts- behind the engine side motor mount bracket. Once the bracket is installed, move onto wiring. There is a red wire coming out of the harness for the FIVE wire regulator that had switched 12 volt power. This wire was cut and connected to the green wire in the old harness, then a female spade connector was added to the end of the green wire and the old harness was discarded, this wire gets connected to terminal IG on the new regulator, this will be the "exciter wire". Then I used the existing charge wire and added a ne ring terminal to it.
From this point on, its pretty much just an alternator replacement, install the upper bolt, re-install belt, tension, drive and smile.
I will post up pics of everything I did in the morning.
I just did the newer internal regulator conversion For my 84, and I'm happy to say- 14.48 volts steady. If you are having issues with your stock alternator and regulator, DO THIS CHANGE OVER!!! My battery gauge doesnt even move anymore when I have the blinkers or headlights on, the only way I could make it fluctuate was to have the headlights on, and the stereo thumping.
Below Is a short compilation of what we did to make this work, and the parts needed.
Parts-
1. Internally regulated alternator, In this case I used an 87 alt.
2. Lower bracket for said alternator.
3. Butt connectors 14-16 gauge
3. Shrink wrap
4. Some time
The hardest part of this swap was putting the new bracket back into the spot it mounts- behind the engine side motor mount bracket. Once the bracket is installed, move onto wiring. There is a red wire coming out of the harness for the FIVE wire regulator that had switched 12 volt power. This wire was cut and connected to the green wire in the old harness, then a female spade connector was added to the end of the green wire and the old harness was discarded, this wire gets connected to terminal IG on the new regulator, this will be the "exciter wire". Then I used the existing charge wire and added a ne ring terminal to it.
From this point on, its pretty much just an alternator replacement, install the upper bolt, re-install belt, tension, drive and smile.
I will post up pics of everything I did in the morning.
#47
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I check mine after talking to you I get 14 something as well the gauge moves a volt when i turn my offroad lights on too
#49
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Essentially, cost of alternator. Brackets were obtained through a friend, junk yards here were jerks about the brackets, so no idea. Oh, and like 3 bucks for butt connectors.
#50
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well I am glad it all worked out maybe if you took good pictures you can post of a write up I did my conversion long before I knew yota tech. dont know whats up with the yards and the failure to give up a bracket typically long block replacements are bare consiting of a block pistons crank and head
I check mine after talking to you I get 14 something as well the gauge moves a volt when i turn my offroad lights on too
I check mine after talking to you I get 14 something as well the gauge moves a volt when i turn my offroad lights on too
Def. I will get pics tomorrow for sure. should i create a new post for the mod?
#51
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idk maybe posting the mod in this thread is good enough just wondering if people in your situation will find it with the search option maybe just make sure at least the tags are good to go
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#58
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the funny thing about these modifications is unless you know what your looking it it will be very hard to R&R parts on my rig I am a mutt of parts from 1979-1991 LOL