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Old Sep 26, 2012 | 09:32 PM
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auto to manual swap questions

I'm gearing up for my swap, but I have a couple questions about things I'm not quite sure about. I've researched and come up with ambiguous answers to these two questions. I want to make sure before I drive to the p&p to spend a day getting parts.

1. Will the old bellhousing bolts work with the manual tranny?

2. Can I use the old crossmember?

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Old Sep 26, 2012 | 10:33 PM
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1. No, some of the auto bolts are shorter than the manual and you won't have enough (the manual has two gussets that is attached to the engine block that adds an extra 4 bolts on the bellhousing compared to the auto). I can take a pic later this weekend if you want.
2. Old crossmember and drive shafts will work. The transfer case mount that sits on top of the crossmember won't. You'll need to swap that over.
FYI You'll also need the flywheel bolts out of a manual. The automatic ones are too short also IIRC.
-Did an A340H to G52 swap on my truck 2 weeks ago.
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Old Sep 27, 2012 | 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Vang530
1. No, some of the auto bolts are shorter than the manual and you won't have enough (the manual has two gussets that is attached to the engine block that adds an extra 4 bolts on the bellhousing compared to the auto). I can take a pic later this weekend if you want.
2. Old crossmember and drive shafts will work. The transfer case mount that sits on top of the crossmember won't. You'll need to swap that over.
FYI You'll also need the flywheel bolts out of a manual. The automatic ones are too short also IIRC.
-Did an A340H to G52 swap on my truck 2 weeks ago.
Yes, PLEASE post up some pics of those gussets so I can identify them at the pick and pull!

Honestly, I didn't think I would have to basically drop another tranny to get the extra parts, but it's better than making two trips to the parts yard.
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Old Sep 27, 2012 | 08:22 AM
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Just get everything on or attached to the manual tranny.

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Old Sep 27, 2012 | 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by waskillywabbit
Just get everything on or attached to the manual tranny.

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The tranny I bought to use for this has the crossmember mount, and it does look the same as the one on my automatic. As for the flywheel bolts, I thought it was a no no to reuse them. I was just going to find some at napa.
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Old Sep 27, 2012 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Guyechka
Yes, PLEASE post up some pics of those gussets so I can identify them at the pick and pull!

Honestly, I didn't think I would have to basically drop another tranny to get the extra parts, but it's better than making two trips to the parts yard.
I'll get some pics on Sun or Monday if I remember.
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Old Oct 1, 2012 | 08:38 AM
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Ok, here is a seemingly dumb question.

Are flywheel bolts the same for 22r and 22re?

I noticed that there are plenty of bolts for 20r and 22r, but none of them list 22re in the description.
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