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help I.D. my transmission? (pics)

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Old Dec 22, 2011 | 11:30 PM
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lockers lock your axles together more or less... so if you have a locker in your rear axle both tires will spin on the back instead of just one... there's tons of set ups out there... if your on the street you would want air, aux or e-lockers..... that way you can turn them off for street use.... however, for sand and street use you way not even want them... somethin to look into and consider... limited slip is atleast nice if you ask me. It sucks to be stuck in the mud in 4wheel drive and only 3 tires are spinning...
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Old Dec 22, 2011 | 11:31 PM
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I ment only 2 tires.... ha
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Old Dec 22, 2011 | 11:34 PM
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I know the dccd (driver control center dif) does some of that. Not the lockers tho.
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Old Dec 23, 2011 | 06:44 AM
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Well the dccd is wit the transfer of the power... if set to manual on lock its 50/50 an all the way up is 65/35... they made it different on some years.... but if its on auto the computor plays a big part in it... along wit the sinc all wheel system... which is what I'd wonder about if you took the drive train out of a sti....

An ya lockers lock your gears.... on junked mud trucks you can even weld it.... cheap lock.. ha
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Old Dec 23, 2011 | 06:51 AM
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Any L series transmissions are weak. I have gone through a couple, have a spares You would be Better off with an r151f or w56..
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Old Dec 23, 2011 | 07:29 AM
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But to answer one of your above questions, the L52 will bolt up with no modifications. Pretty sure any L series will bolt right up to any 20R or 22R first gen without any modification whatsoever. Any transmission which was paired to a 22R(E) stock will bolt up to any other 22R(E). But the longer, later model tranny's will require driveshaft mods. But as far as transmission bellhousing to engine, no mods.
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Old Jun 11, 2012 | 07:27 PM
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i know this is an old thread but its not the input shaft that a different size its the input BEARING thats a different size. and its really only the 5th gear that is weak in these trannys.
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Old Jun 11, 2012 | 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by dropzone
Any L series transmissions are weak. I have gone through a couple, have a spares You would be Better off with an r151f or w56..
Sorry not true. The 'L' based 4-speed that Toyota used before the 5's is virtually indestructible. It is way over engineered for a 4 banger and can take a beating like no other manual tranny I have seen. It does lack for top end speed though. From your post I think you need to invest in a quality transmission cooler.

You are right about the w56--great design.
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Old Jun 11, 2012 | 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by MercuryMan
Sorry not true. The 'L' based 4-speed that Toyota used before the 5's is virtually indestructible. It is way over engineered for a 4 banger and can take a beating like no other manual tranny I have seen. It does lack for top end speed though. From your post I think you need to invest in a quality transmission cooler.

You are right about the w56--great design.
You OBVIOUSLY haven't dealt with the r-151. 100x better then ANY L trans. Now THAT trans is overly built for a 4banger, turbo or not. I would take an r151 over ANY other L, R or W series trans in a heartbeat.

You are aware though that the L-series trans weren't all 4 speeds correct?

And EXACTLY how did you come with the fact he needs to invest in a quality transmission cooler again? And EXACTLY how are you supposed to put a quality transmission cooler on a manual trans in order to keep it cooled and reliable again?

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Old Jun 11, 2012 | 10:11 PM
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Woa xxxtreme. 100x better?? My point was that all the L's weren't built weak, and yes the r-151's are great.

Yes I know they made 5-speed 'L's and they DID have weak 5th gears.

Should have put a smiley face after the cooler remark since I was kidding!! But you COULD put a larger sump on a manual with fins and it WOULD keep the hypoid cooler-don't ya think.
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Old Jun 12, 2012 | 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by MercuryMan
Sorry not true. The 'L' based 4-speed that Toyota used before the 5's is virtually indestructible. It is way over engineered for a 4 banger and can take a beating like no other manual tranny I have seen. It does lack for top end speed though. From your post I think you need to invest in a quality transmission cooler.

You are right about the w56--great design.
the only tranny you better be talking about is the l45, which is the same tranny as an l50/l52 minus 5th gear. They most certainly arnt "indestructible" but they are fine for daily use and mild offroading.

the earlier 4 spd toyota made for the 79 toyotas is an l43 which is a side shifting pile of crap.
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Old Jun 20, 2012 | 07:37 PM
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Early on in this thread, Nix asked which trans he had L50/52. I did a search and somebody said that if you reach into the bell housing and put your fingers on the bottom of the bolt on housing that the shaft protrudes thru, and there is a hole on the bottom of that it is a L52. I bought a trans from a 83 in junkyard which had the hole, turned out to need a rebuild. I found another 5spd that was good but doesn't have the hole I put it in and it shifts great. So I guess that is an answer to that Q. BTW my truck is a 1980 4x4 that had the L43 4spd
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