muddpigg

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What should I look for in a flare kit to do Toy brakelines?

What have you found to work and what doesn't?


Thanks in advance.

waskillywabbit

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I haven't done any in a while, but they are a double flare and take some practice to make correctly. I bought a high quality flaring kit for standard and metric flares and it works well. I got it from a toolman on a truck. I think its a Cornwell or Mac. Don't remember.

A cheap flaring kit will break after a few times if you aren't extremely careful with it. So you really need to ask yourself if its worth the investment or just go to the local place and have them flare it for you.

Toyota uses a standard inverted double flare on 3/16" line. The tube fittings are the only difference, 10mm threads vs 3/8"

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muddpigg

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Thanks Wab.

Going to convert the rear to disc, a Christmas present:-) from a very special lady;-)

Want to put the put a manual portion valve and an e line lock. So maybe its worth the investment. Decisions.

RMA

i bought a cheap one off ebay , the dies were good but the other tool , the one that actually flares was garbage , and the clamp deal was also garbage wouldnt hold the tubing .

now i have to buy another one , this time it will be a good one .

tebro27

Good evening, I have the old school flaring kits (manual screw down) as well as the hydraulic flaring tool. The Hydraulic tool will make you throw away the old school one. All thought quite pricey, think I paid 700-800. But never have a problem and the flares are perfect! Have seen Matco Tools sell then for 299.99!

muddpigg

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Found a youtube clip on using a flare tool. Can definately see where Murphy's Law could slip in. But will probably give it a go. Will have to shop around though.

muddpigg

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Next question:
Can I flare my own lines to female toyota to a male 1/8 NPT? More or less make my own adaptor to install these pares into my brake system.


Brake Proportioning Valve, Knob Adjustment, 1/8 in. NPT, Single Inlet/Outlet, Aluminum, Natural, Each

Part Number: SUM-G3905


Line Lock, 1/8 in. NPT Inlet/Outlet, Zinc Plated Steel, Each

Part Number: SBR-LL

Craftamans has a flare kit that looks rather good, speaking from my limited knowledge plus a lifetime warranty to boot.

Any recommendations or advice welcome.

waskillywabbit

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Make a custom line one end metric fitting the other standard to plumb in the proportioning valve.

I'd get something higher end than a Craftsman flaring kit.

If you are going to invest in a flaring kit, get something a bit more expensive.

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muddpigg

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Yeah, FROR sale a portion valve with these custom adaptor lines on it.

I know you mentioned Cornwell and Mac, will have to do some searching. Besides this adaptor setup maybe one day redo the brakelines on my truck but thats about it for my intended use, perhaps help a buddy out.

Will learn something new and get a new tool out of it. Over purchasing several adaptors. For all the adaptors to make this work I'll spend almost $50, if someone has alternative solution I'm open to sugestions.

xxxtreme22r

hmmm when I did my rear brake lines, I bought lengths that were "close enough" and the lines were already flared. All I had to do was bend them up.

muddpigg

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Have seen two viable methods to mount the P valve and LL I like. One under the rear close to the LSPV the other on the fire wall. Found a set of Eastwood bending pliars for a good price so perhads to have the lines I want flared then bend them to suit like you said. Probaly the cheapest route.

91 4Runner

I'm gonna be installing a manual portioning valve in my new project truck (once the weather gets warmer - no garage) and I'm going to install it in cab for ease of adjustment..... As far as the two choices you listed - under the hood is the best for a number of reasons....

1. ease of adjustment
2. clean and free of mud and such
3. easier to plumb in on the rear line

shaeff

For what it's worth, I've redone all the brake lines on my dad's '79 Vette with a Craftsman flaring tool, as well as a few lines on my Toyota Pickup ('94), my bro's old Toyota ('98), and a few others. So far it's worked flawlessly.

I'm not sure if it's warrantied or not, but it's held up great so far. Works best if you put it in a vice to hold it.

wyoming9

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I had a Matco double flaring tool for years till a helper managed to lose all the double flare adapters . Then break one of the wing nuts on the flaring block. I was able to buy another used Matco off of Ebay pretty cheap

I found one thing to never try and put a flare on brake line that has been in use. They always crack.

The nice thing is that with the correct nuts you can configure anything you need.

peow130

I used the rental tool from Schucks with no problems.
Did all the lines on my heep except one (which i forgot until after i had the body on, and the tool back at the store >.<)

dvaldi

i just finished a brake line replacement. tried to connect to a old line via union with no luck. rented a double flare kit from both autozone and napa, neither could produce a uniform double flare even on new brake line. Needless to say it didnt work on my old line so now im running all new line front to back with factory flares.