Vehicle Audio & Home Entertainment Discussions here pertain to vehicle stereo systems and home entertainment systems

HELP building a stealth sub enclosure

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 02-22-2004, 10:03 PM
  #1  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
s_wall98's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Knoxville TN
Posts: 443
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
HELP building a stealth sub enclosure

I have a 1994 runner and am currently running 1 JL Audio 10w0 in a bandpass box powered by a Planet Audio 200x2 amp. Its bridged right now and sounds pretty good (great to my ears) but takes up a little too much room. I was looking for something a little stealthier and thought about using the rear cubby holes to build 2 stealth enclosures, then building a false floor with a compartment for the amp and several compartments for the storage that was in the cubbies. Just wondering if anyone out there has done this and could tell me any problems and how much space I would have in the cubbies. I dont want to do any exposed cutting but who knows. Also, how much space do i need to for the amp to breathe. Thanks alot guys.
Old 02-22-2004, 10:08 PM
  #2  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
s_wall98's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Knoxville TN
Posts: 443
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Oops.. I'm sticking with the 10" sub, probably 2 10w0's.
Old 02-22-2004, 10:26 PM
  #3  
Registered User
 
Bob_98SR5's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 10,036
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 2 Posts
s wall,

if i recall, 4runr did exactly waht you're talking about except with 8" subs. axe him.

bob
Old 02-22-2004, 11:31 PM
  #4  
Registered User
 
tenfourtyeight's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Vista, Ca
Posts: 602
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Bob_98SR5
s wall,

if i recall, 4runr did exactly waht you're talking about except with 8" subs. axe him.

bob
No, no, no... Chainsaws are much more efficient.

Old 02-22-2004, 11:58 PM
  #5  
Guest
 
96redracer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Cali... I think... I don't know anymore!
Posts: 37
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
S_wall98

Here is a good idea. JL

Also, if you are going to put money into building some custom boxes, look at going with a higher grade of speaker.... I had a 10W0 and replaced it with a 10W3v2-D2. There was a big difference in the sound....

Hope this helps
RED

Last edited by 96redracer; 11-20-2004 at 12:36 PM.
Old 02-23-2004, 03:43 AM
  #6  
Senior Member
 
jacksonpt's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Binghamton, NY
Posts: 2,752
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I did something similar, except I didn't use the side cubby. I built storage along the back, with a sub box and an amp/relay box along the seats - put a false floor over the top of it all. And for those of you who may be asking... yes, it's been like 2 years and I still haven't gotten around to carpeting it. You can't really see it in the pics, but there is a heavy duty grille over the sub that is flush with the surface of the false floor. It's pretty strong - my dogs jump all over it, I've had the back loaded with crap on several occasions, and I've moved more than my share of furniture, tvs, etc. back there.

clicky for bigger pics




Last edited by jacksonpt; 02-23-2004 at 03:44 AM.
Old 02-23-2004, 09:37 AM
  #7  
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Orange County, CA
Posts: 211
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I'm going to be starting something like this very shortly:
http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/296763/7
Old 02-23-2004, 02:59 PM
  #8  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
s_wall98's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Knoxville TN
Posts: 443
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
96redracer

If I have my way, the box will be relatively cheap to build. Im trying to keep it all behind the paneling, with only the speakers being exposed when i have the doors off the cubbies. I'd like to use 10 w3v2's but I already have 1 10w0 and one of my friends bought another 10w0 at the same time I did...hopefully I will be able to get my hands on it. Also, I think (could be wrong about this) the 10w3v2s need a little more airspace and I'm not real sure that I can fit them in without doing some cutting and I'd probably need a better amp to push them. The amp I have now was powering the speaker off one channel and sounded fine before I bridged it, so I think another of the same series should work fine with it. Thanks for all the help guys.

Shawn
Old 02-23-2004, 03:48 PM
  #9  
Registered User
 
Cebby's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 11,199
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Apparently I'm the only one who has removed the cubby box liner thing and actually measured it.

There is not enough depth for much of a sub at all back there if you want to keep it all concealed (like I want to).

My plan is to make a fiberglass box that uses as much of the cavity as possible to gain airspace in the box. The only sweet shallow depth sub I've come across (we had this discussion about a month or so ago) are Illusion Audio subs. They have the magnet on the cone side to save depth. I don't have any dealers nearby, so I can't give them a listen. THey are looking for distribution in my area. Hmmmm. If there is enough of an interest, I'll make a mold of the box I come up with and sell them "loaded" with an IA sub.

I would like to do 1-12" in the driver's rear quarter. The drivers rear quarter has more airspace than the passenger (on 2nd Gens) since the gas filler is on the passenger side. I'm not sure how much airspace I can get. I'd love to shoehorn a 15 in there, but I don't think I have the airspace.

http://www.illusionaudio.com/indexx.html
Old 02-23-2004, 04:00 PM
  #10  
Contributing Member
 
96LtdYota's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Tuscaloosa, Al... ROLL TIDE!!!
Posts: 1,551
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
if you look up blaupunkt audio they have a sub that measures only 2 inches in depth.... check it out...
Old 02-23-2004, 04:36 PM
  #11  
Registered User
 
Cebby's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 11,199
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Thanks for the tip on the Blau's. Those are super cool!!! Couldn't find any box volume requirements though. A buddy of mine is a Blau dealer. I never would have thought of them...

Old 02-23-2004, 04:38 PM
  #12  
Registered User
 
KevyWevy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Kirkland, WA
Posts: 1,954
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
yeah, i wanted to do this a while ago. there is definetly not enough depth at least for my 10" MTX's. i just build a small cargo box/sub box. im planing on making a carpeted false floor this summer.

WHOA!!! those are crazy!!!

if you did make the boxes and what not depending on the price i might do it, but since i already have all my stuff set up, probably not, cause then i would have to sell what i have and spend more money. which i would rather put towards a lift.

Last edited by KevyWevy; 02-23-2004 at 04:41 PM.
Old 02-23-2004, 04:43 PM
  #13  
Registered User
 
ldivinag's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: N37 39* W122 3*
Posts: 1,526
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
if you dont have a spare tire underneath, make a metal box with a smallport stick up.

then mount it where the spare tire and make the port long enough to reach into the rear area cargo floor. that is completely stealth.

while you're back there, cut a rectangular section right behind the rear seats. then have a welder make a metal box to hold the amps and your procs.

when everthing is done, you'll have a flat floor.
Old 02-23-2004, 04:46 PM
  #14  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
s_wall98's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Knoxville TN
Posts: 443
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Great idea Idivinag. You know anyone that has done this.
Old 02-23-2004, 05:46 PM
  #15  
Registered User
 
ldivinag's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: N37 39* W122 3*
Posts: 1,526
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
yeah, but in each case, it was one or the other... and it was a few years ago...
Old 02-24-2004, 05:21 AM
  #16  
Registered User
 
Cebby's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 11,199
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Originally Posted by ldivinag
if you dont have a spare tire underneath, make a metal box with a smallport stick up.

then mount it where the spare tire and make the port long enough to reach into the rear area cargo floor. that is completely stealth.

while you're back there, cut a rectangular section right behind the rear seats. then have a welder make a metal box to hold the amps and your procs.

when everthing is done, you'll have a flat floor.
I was planning to do something like this, but am on the fence about it now since I'm not sure I want my spare hanging off of my bumper. I will need the entire cargo area floor for all the gear I have. Sub would still need to go in the side.
Old 02-25-2004, 07:30 AM
  #17  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
s_wall98's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Knoxville TN
Posts: 443
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Have you all seen this setup. I tried to get ahold of him, but keep getting an email back when i try to email him.
Old 03-08-2004, 09:39 AM
  #18  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
s_wall98's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Knoxville TN
Posts: 443
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Check this out.
http://www.lindsay.k12.ca.us/emerson.../4runner3.html
Tried to get ahold of him, but no luck.
Old 03-08-2004, 12:59 PM
  #19  
Registered User
 
kford's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Louisville, KY
Posts: 284
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
why are you building a stealth submarine? It will never fit in your runner. For stealth material, check out James Bond, Tomorrow Never Dies.
Old 03-08-2004, 02:45 PM
  #20  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
s_wall98's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Knoxville TN
Posts: 443
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Looks to me like it did fit...either that or he had it propped up for the pictures. Thats why I wanted to get ahold of him.


Quick Reply: HELP building a stealth sub enclosure



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 09:29 AM.