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Old 06-23-2009, 10:09 AM
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What to do with your Auto hubs after manual swap

I am getting ready to swap the auto hubs on my 89 4Runner and I was wondering what everyone does with the auto hubs when complete a manual swap.

I am having a lot of trouble getting the allen screws out of the hub covers and I was considering cutthing them off. I assume there can/will be additional damage to the auto hubs but I'm not sure I should care.

Any input you have would be appreciated!
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Does anyone have any advise?
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you can sell them or trash them
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keep it as a trail spare incase you blow a hub up.
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What allen heads do you mean? I thought there were some kind of acorn nuts.
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They may not be "allen" but they look like this:



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Ah, I see. I almost put something similar on when I rebuilt mine...


...but in the end I went back to the regular hex head bolt style because I was afraid the allen head pockets would get packed with mud etc.

Are they just not breaking loose and you're at risk of stripping out the socket/pocket? If so, maybe WD or PB Blaster and tincture of time.
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Originally Posted by BLKNBLU

Are they just not breaking loose and you're at risk of stripping out the socket/pocket? If so, maybe WD or PB Blaster and tincture of time.
you got it - they are not breaking loose and I did strip one of the a bit. I tried PB Blaster time and time again and still nothing. I wasn't sure if I would need the auto hubs for anything in the future so I was just going to use the grinder to cut the heads off those allen-ish heads

What do you think?
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When I saw the title of the thread I was going to find a pic of a trash can and post that, but then Crolison suggested the trail spare thing and I thought "OK". In reality though, I think you're more likely to break a cv before a hub. I'd say grind away. If you want to try drilling them, I have some ez outs you could borrow. (not that they are very "ez") Might be able to save the covers that way. LMK.
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I kinda figured most people trash them since I never see any threads like "FS: Used Auto Hubs"

EZ out is a great idea - I have something like an ez out that I'm gonna go try right now.

I'm actually doing this because I tore the inner CV boot and the tripod gear is a little jacked up. AND, since my friend Mike hooked me up with 2 spare CV's I am going to replace the questionable one and swap the hubs while I'm at it.

Hopefully I can find time to get all this done by the weekend so I do some wheelin - wanna come with us? We'll probably go to Saguaro, but this time we are talking about going to the 3rd or 4th cove. Probably going to go on Sunday but we're open to whatever works for everyone.
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A definate maybe... Can't really commit yet. I'll keep in touch.

I thought you had that CV sorted out.
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Weld them together and make a neat paper weight. About all they are good for.

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Originally Posted by waskillywabbit
...make a neat paper weight. About all they are good for.

But that's what I use my Harbor Freight torque wrench for.
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I took the grinder to it - probably not the most practical way, but it was fun! and only took about 20 minutes.

Once I get them swapped I'll post up some pics - along with the other 20 mods I've done over the past few months.

Thanks for all your input - I appreciate it!
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Sorry to thread jack, i am going to do this today on my 94, any issues i should watch out for?
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A paper weight is all they would be good for. Once you do the manual hub conversion, you can't use them as trail spares.
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Originally Posted by seanmearse
Sorry to thread jack, i am going to do this today on my 94, any issues i should watch out for?

I'm not done yet, but the biggest issue I've run into is getting those allen head looking screws out - I used the grinder to cut the heads off. And I'm having trouble finding a 54mm socket.

I'll let you know if I run into any other issues along the way.
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Originally Posted by DeathCougar
A paper weight is all they would be good for. Once you do the manual hub conversion, you can't use them as trail spares.
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But that's what I use my Harbor Freight torque wrench for.
If I remember right all harbor freight torque wrenches have lifetime warranties...



Good call changing them out before they broke on you. After about a year of wheeling both of my auto hubs have failed on me. I just ordered my manual hubs last night.

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Originally Posted by lofreqjeff
I'm not done yet, but the biggest issue I've run into is getting those allen head looking screws out - I used the grinder to cut the heads off. And I'm having trouble finding a 54mm socket.

I'll let you know if I run into any other issues along the way.
His 94 does not have automatic hubs, just ADD. Instead of a hub like yours, he has an ADD drive flange with requires only a 12mm wrench. Nothing else, and no conversion kit. Just the manual hubs themselves.
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Originally Posted by DeathCougar
His 94 does not have automatic hubs, just ADD. Instead of a hub like yours, he has an ADD drive flange with requires only a 12mm wrench. Nothing else, and no conversion kit. Just the manual hubs themselves.
Wicked! I didnt know that! i was putting it off after the 54mm socket thing. To tired now though, thanks DC.


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