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Old 02-13-2009, 06:04 AM
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Some ?'s about my lift

Ok so I have a 92 4runner. it was stock until I picked up 2" coil spacers from TRDParts4U. I installed those and cranked the torsion bars. That is how I sit now.
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So I just bought BJ Spacers, Cruiser Coils, Rancho 9000's, and a Panhard Drop Bracket from Yotaman. I am also going to try and pickup a 4" Trailmaster lift.

My Questions are can I install the Trailmaster and BJ spacers together, and the cruiser coils with the 2" spacers?

will the rear be to high?

will I be able to stuff 35x12's with that setup?

and what else should i get? like extended hoses, steering stab, anything you think that might help.

I'll try to take pics and keep you guys updated
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Im no expert on lifting a 4runner rear, but the front setup with a bracket lift and bj spacers will net you about 6 inches (if the trailmaster is a 4 inch kit). If crusier coils work with the stock spring mounts, then there's no reason why you couldn't combine it with the 2 inch spacer, but I feel like the rear's gonna be sitting lower than the front. Again, I don't know jack about runners, so consider this post a bump, nothing more.
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All I have to say is, relax the t-bars or dont to bj spacer. You cant do both. The CV angles will be extreem.
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Yes, you can combine the BJ spacers and a bracket lift:
http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/ForSale/...cer.shtml#FAQ2

In fact Frank at SDORI used to run the exact setup on his old 4Runner as I recall. Why? No added lift as he relaxed the torsion bars fully (i.e. no additional lift), but got the added wheel travel and a softer ride than he got with the stock setup.
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Originally Posted by 4rnr
All I have to say is, relax the t-bars or dont to bj spacer. You cant do both. The CV angles will be extreem.
But doesn't the Trailmaster kit lower the Diff which would not change the CV angles, so installing the BJ Spacers with the TrailMaster kit would be the same as installing it on a stock rig Right?
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ya the bracket lift will drop the diff you should be fine. crankin the t-bars sucks though stiff ride. thats how i had my truck lifted before my SAS
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i dont think the rear 4 link setup is long enough to handle a cruiser coil (3") and coil spacer (2") take a close look at the passenger upper link, it will bottom out on the frame mount. u can ditch the 4 link setup and go leafs, i did it to my 90 4runner, and used the factory lower frame link hanger to mount the 3rd gen pickup leafs. just had to build shackle hangers.
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Originally Posted by needlepimp
But doesn't the Trailmaster kit lower the Diff which would not change the CV angles, so installing the BJ Spacers with the TrailMaster kit would be the same as installing it on a stock rig Right?
Yes it does lower the diff, but all that does it maintain stock CV angles, so if you ad bj spacers lets say that adds 10* to the cv. And you crank the t-bars, and add another 10* to the cv's. You have added alot of angle to the shafts, that is independent from the bracket lift. So I suggest choosing one, either the cranked t-bars, or the bj spacers. Most will tell you to go BJ spacers.
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My 2 cents. Dont crank the torsion bars, creates a really stiff ride. Aslo you will not be able to lift the rear far enough to keep up with the amount of lift in the front. 3-4 inches max in the rear with out extesively modifying the rear. The upper passenger side link in the rear will hit the gas tank. You will have upward travel on that side but no droop. I had to do a 3-link on mine to acomidate the 5 and half inches of lift I got with the cruiser coils I am running in the rear.
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Originally Posted by 4rnr
Yes it does lower the diff, but all that does it maintain stock CV angles, so if you ad bj spacers lets say that adds 10* to the cv. And you crank the t-bars, and add another 10* to the cv's. You have added alot of angle to the shafts, that is independent from the bracket lift. So I suggest choosing one, either the cranked t-bars, or the bj spacers. Most will tell you to go BJ spacers.
Oh yeah I do plan on backing the T-bars back off for a softer ride
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Originally Posted by 85excab
i dont think the rear 4 link setup is long enough to handle a cruiser coil (3") and coil spacer (2") take a close look at the passenger upper link, it will bottom out on the frame mount. u can ditch the 4 link setup and go leafs, i did it to my 90 4runner, and used the factory lower frame link hanger to mount the 3rd gen pickup leafs. just had to build shackle hangers.
GOT ANY close up of how you used the stock frame link hanger as a spring hanger.. what hardware did you use??

you had to use 3rd gen pickup leafs?
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Originally Posted by 85excab
i dont think the rear 4 link setup is long enough to handle a cruiser coil (3") and coil spacer (2") take a close look at the passenger upper link, it will bottom out on the frame mount. u can ditch the 4 link setup and go leafs, i did it to my 90 4runner, and used the factory lower frame link hanger to mount the 3rd gen pickup leafs. just had to build shackle hangers.
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My 2 cents. Dont crank the torsion bars, creates a really stiff ride. Aslo you will not be able to lift the rear far enough to keep up with the amount of lift in the front. 3-4 inches max in the rear with out extesively modifying the rear. The upper passenger side link in the rear will hit the gas tank. You will have upward travel on that side but no droop. I had to do a 3-link on mine to acomidate the 5 and half inches of lift I got with the cruiser coils I am running in the rear.
can you both show me some suspension pics? you can't get extended links, or clearance the passenger upper links?

It's hard to do this stuff without a garage, plus I had to leave my welders back in the states. I could try to explain to what I want to do to a Japanese Mechanic, but that worries me. your help is appreciated.
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With the rear coil suspension.

I have seen some braket type extensions for the links that help return the factory angles after adding longer coils or something like that.
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Originally Posted by 904_runner
With the rear coil suspension.

I have seen some braket type extensions for the links that help return the factory angles after adding longer coils or something like that.
kinda like the Panhard drop bracket? just and extension of the mounting points.
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Yes i believe so. Ive seen them on a runner around here. Not sure who sells them.

For some reason im thinking procomp but could be wrong.
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are the 3rd gen's rear suspension the same as the 2nd? because this guy seems to get alot of lift out of the rear with almost the same rear setup as I plan on

https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f79/...er-96-a-34300/
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Originally Posted by 904_runner
Yes i believe so. Ive seen them on a runner around here. Not sure who sells them.

For some reason im thinking procomp but could be wrong.
You were right they are part of the ProComp 4" stage 2 lift



now I just need to try and get someone to part with a set.
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4crawler sells them
but i want to know about mounting leafs to the frame links like 85excab.. i love to just add leafs by mounting shackle mounts and spring perches.. and stuff...
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Coil to leaf spring swap:
- http://www.off-road.com/trucks4x4/ar....jsp?id=300933

Panhard drop brackets:
- http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/ForSale/...anhardDropBrkt
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