jsrusse11

i'm buying an 86 yota and might have found a good axle for a swap. the ad says:

Originally out of a 67-69 waggoneer. 4.10 open
Closed knuckle housing. Chevy disks. 5x5.5 pattern, complete, everything works. International hubs. approx. 62" wide. SOA pads 35" apart
may need brake job.

he only wants 100 bucks. since its so cheap does that mean theres probably something more wrong with it. is this a good deal and if so will it work on my truck. or will i have to do a lot of work to make it fit?

jsrusse11

i'm buying an 86 yota and might have found a good axle for a swap. the ad says:

Originally out of a 67-69 waggoneer. 4.10 open
Closed knuckle housing. Chevy disks. 5x5.5 pattern, complete, everything works. International hubs. approx. 62" wide. SOA pads 35" apart
may need brake job.

he only wants 100 bucks. since its so cheap does that mean theres probably something more wrong with it. is this a good deal and if so will it work on my truck. or will i have to do a lot of work to make it fit?

toy283

No, it will not work on your truck. Wagoneers have a driver's side differential, Toyota trucks had a passenger side differential until '95 and the Tacomas.

justinh

actually a waggy that old should be a passenger side drop, they didn't use driver side drop until the early 80's

Napoleon047

dont get it

D44's are cheap and plentiful that one has a lot of stuff that would need changing anyway:

you want open knuckles

you want a 6x5.5 bolt pattern (to match your rear axle)

35" spring pads?? talk about outboarding your springs, stock toy are 29" apart, people complain when they have to use 31.5" spring pad width on a waggy D44

ideally, you want a GM D44 with flat top knuckles and then have the long side cut down.

Napoleon047

79 and down - passenger side diff
80 and up - driver side diff

jsrusse11

i'll pass on this one then. so what should i look for in an axle then. what gm's are good to get them off of and what all works. or should i just go for a toyota solid axle. is a dana 44 too much trouble?

INsr5runner

why not stick with a toy 8" for the front?

44Runner

They were only driver's side from 1980 on.


I would look for a 74-79 Wagoneer front. That would be a better starting point...

44Runner

weak housing
width
birfields

lcopelan22

I'm not saying anything bad about a 44 at all. They're great axles. You asked if it would be too much trouble, going with a Yota axle would be cheaper for sure. Me and my buddy have been building his Wrangler that we swapped a Waggy axle into. A couple of days ago we threw the new Chromoly Shafts into it. Those shafts cost $580.00. You can Birf, and Chromoly Front and Rear in a Yota for right at that price.

44Runner

Yes, it is cheaper to build a toy axle, but they aren't as strong. That is the trade off...

Napoleon047

also, keep in mind that 4.88 is the lowest D44 ratio that matches a toy ratio. some ppl will use a 5.38 with a 5.29 (1.67%) difference. on hard rock surfaces, the driveline will have a lot of binding and one guy i know hates it personally, so hes going to a D60 rear to match the ratios exactly. if all you see is loose dirt, mud, or loose rock trails, the mismatched ratios will be unnoticed.

ravencr

I've found a 85 Waggy axle for $50-100(not sure yet), but I'm wondering if it will fit on my 1997 4runner and be a good choice for a SAS?

Chris

justinh

as long as it doens't have the vacuum disconnect on the diffrential then it is what you need, if it has the vacuum disconnect it isn't, 86 shouldn't but if it does it will be on the differential and easy to see.