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Old 03-20-2006, 08:37 PM
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Question Body lift is a suspension lift?

I see many members here say they have a 5,6 or 7" lift but add that to the suspension lift. How does a body lift equate into a suspension lift?

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im not sure i understand your question, but i think people say they have X amount of "total lift" which they get by adding their suspension lift and their body lift
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Originally Posted by msw0085
im not sure i understand your question, but i think people say they have X amount of "total lift" which they get by adding their suspension lift and their body lift
Exactly! I dont think you should add both together. As you know the BL doesnt do anything except add clearance for tires. If your going to advertise it as a 7" lift I'am expecting the suspension not the body. huh, maybe it is just me.

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The body lift does add wheel travel. It space the arms apart, therefore adding lift, But by adding space there, it also spaces the arms further from the bumpstops, adding travel. Since the added space is added at the spindle. It is pretty easy to calculate the added available wheel travel. A 1.5"spacer adds about 1.5"of travel.

It is a true suspension lift.
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Originally Posted by JamesD
Exactly! I dont think you should add both together. As you know the BL doesnt do anything except add clearance for tires. If your going to advertise it as a 7" lift I'am expecting the suspension not the body. huh, maybe it is just me.

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It's just you.

for example:

" 3" of lift " means 3 inches of lift, type not specified.
" 3" of suspension lift " means 3 inches of suspension lift.
" 3" of body lift " means 3 inches of body lift.

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big _______ deal.
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Originally Posted by calrockx
It's just you.

for example:

" 3" of lift " means 3 inches of lift, type not specified.
" 3" of suspension lift " means 3 inches of suspension lift.
" 3" of body lift " means 3 inches of body lift.

When someone says they have a 3" lift on their truck, I'am thinking suspension lift not body. Heck I guess my old 2wd had 9" lift!

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Originally Posted by deathrunner
The body lift does add wheel travel. It space the arms apart, therefore adding lift, But by adding space there, it also spaces the arms further from the bumpstops, adding travel. Since the added space is added at the spindle. It is pretty easy to calculate the added available wheel travel. A 1.5"spacer adds about 1.5"of travel.

It is a true suspension lift.
A body lift adds SPACE for the wheel to travel in, but it doesn't actually add anything to the actual travel. A body lift simply separates the body from the frame. Thats it.

I agree with everyone else, it is still a type of lift. I mean, technically, a suspension lift doesn't give you any added ground clearance, your axles are still the same height from the ground. So maybe we should call it height and refer to larger tires as lift. Body or suspension, it is all lift.

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hey, nothin' wrong with that
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hey ppl, a body lift will only add wheel travel if you remove/shorten the A arm bump stop
Totally agree with Intrepid
i have always said X body, X susp and X tire...my last jacked truck was 3" bod, 4" susp and 35's, 5:29 gears.
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Body lift = Lifts the body (no suspension components) off the frame.

Suspension lift = moves the axles away from thw frame usually with a drop bracket system.

Neither necessarily add travel. Some IFS kits decrease it.

This is amazing!
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Originally Posted by Flygtenstein
Body lift = Lifts the body (no suspension components) off the frame.

Suspension lift = moves the axles away from thw frame usually with a drop bracket system.

Neither necessarily add travel. Some IFS kits decrease it.

This is amazing!
Don't look at me I know the difference! All I was curious is why people include their body lift into their suspension lift, thats all.

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How about counting the additional lift gained by larger tires, made possible by body lift? How about counting the extra inch of lift you get when fully aired up, compared to 15 psi? I guess to each his own.
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holy crap...i just spit coffee all over my papers and keyboard....damn you Charles!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by deathrunner
The body lift does add wheel travel. It space the arms apart, therefore adding lift, But by adding space there, it also spaces the arms further from the bumpstops, adding travel. Since the added space is added at the spindle. It is pretty easy to calculate the added available wheel travel. A 1.5"spacer adds about 1.5"of travel.

It is a true suspension lift.
I think you are talking about bj spacers right? I have never seen a body lift that that spreads arms apart.....
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Originally Posted by deathrunner
The body lift does add wheel travel. It space the arms apart, therefore adding lift, But by adding space there, it also spaces the arms further from the bumpstops, adding travel. Since the added space is added at the spindle. It is pretty easy to calculate the added available wheel travel. A 1.5"spacer adds about 1.5"of travel.

It is a true suspension lift.

You have the body lift confused w/ ball-joint spacers. Not the same thing.
Body lifts do add lift - they lift the body. They allow drive-train lifts and the potential for tank lifts and flat belly pans, which can be a big deal to some hard core wheelers.

The point of any lift, first and foremost, is to add larger tires, correct? Suspension travel and/or articulation must be factored as well, and hopefully as a priority in the design of any lift (suspension or otherwise), but some do limit travel as Flyg already mentioned. A body lift can increase the potential for travel if the body is the limiting factor in compression travel.
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Oh I thought he said bj spacer. I think I was reading the titel of another post as I opened this one. My bad....back to my corner I go.
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