*** (up/Down)grading to 4th Gen. Will I miss my 3rd Gen? ***
11-04-2009, 07:22 PM
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11-04-2009, 07:30 PM
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I didn't miss the fact that it got it's muffler/undercarriage smashed up and it had to be yanked out of the stream by another 4x4:
Both of the runners tested were not just normal stock, they were both equipped w/ the trail edition package (w/ lockers, "crawl control", MT tires, and more) and I will admit that makes a huge difference, not to mention it'll cost about $5 or $6000 more than bone stock. And did you notice how much body damage the one suffered. It made it back, but jeez. I'm convinced a "stock" 3rd gen w/ an elocker would fare even better on the Rub.
BTW, I live in Big Bear and I would love to see someone in a 2010 follow me in my 3rd gen on John Bull.
Both of the runners tested were not just normal stock, they were both equipped w/ the trail edition package (w/ lockers, "crawl control", MT tires, and more) and I will admit that makes a huge difference, not to mention it'll cost about $5 or $6000 more than bone stock. And did you notice how much body damage the one suffered. It made it back, but jeez. I'm convinced a "stock" 3rd gen w/ an elocker would fare even better on the Rub.
BTW, I live in Big Bear and I would love to see someone in a 2010 follow me in my 3rd gen on John Bull.
And as far as the banged up undercarriage and a tug, thats just wheeling.
Don't get me wrong. I love the 3rd gen. It can be modified to one of the best if not the best Toyota offroaders. It's just that the other stuff they make are no slouches either. To address the OP's question, getting another 3rd gen really doesn't help him if high mileage is his issue. He can dump his and get another with maybe 90K if he is really lucky but 140-150K being more likely. So he needs to think about a newer gen which are still quite capable or perhaps keep what he has and rebuild when the time comes. As I mentioned earlier, he at least knows his own truck and probably has poured some of himself into it.
11-04-2009, 07:32 PM
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11-04-2009, 07:40 PM
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I dont feel they are in theat class but rather they are leaning towards it. I like the new4Runner but it's cost puts it out of many people's league. Even if you could afford it, would you be comfortable taking a $40,000 through brush etc?
11-04-2009, 07:44 PM
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Personally? No, I don't have that kind of cash to spend on fixing up a brand new rig. But the question at hand is, they are JUST AS CAPABLE as the 3rd Gen's (in stock trim). Pure rock crawling...the size is the limiting factor for the 4th and 5th Gen's and I'd give the nod to 3rd Gen's. For what 99% of the people do on here? 4th or 5th Gen will do just fine.
11-04-2009, 07:47 PM
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Also another well built 4th gen. Actually the one I wanted to post before but the pics were not working.
http://www.expeditionportal.com/foru...ad.php?t=33771
11-04-2009, 07:56 PM
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I've haven't driven one yet, so I don't know if I'll like it or not off road, maybe I'll be surprised. But one thing I can say for sure is I haven't come across a traction control system that I like better than my own 2 feet.
11-05-2009, 05:24 PM
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I love my 3rd gen for the same reasons posted here. It is a real SUV, has backbone and gets the job done with little fuss. However, after driving a 4th gen you start liking the extra power, smoothness, new features gizmos etc. I just feel like if I treated a 4th gen the way I do my 3rd, it wouldn't hold up. The trips to the beach, camping every weekend. I just feel like it wouldn't fail mechanically but cosmetically.
11-06-2009, 03:47 PM
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Sadly the 4runner seems to follow the ford explorer with axle type.
They both started with a solid axle front and rear
Then they both went to independent suspension front solid axle rear
Now the explorer is independent suspension front and rear.
Maybe toyota will do the same then we can have a real suv for off road.
They both started with a solid axle front and rear
Then they both went to independent suspension front solid axle rear
Now the explorer is independent suspension front and rear.
Maybe toyota will do the same then we can have a real suv for off road.
11-06-2009, 04:22 PM
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I don't like the look of the 4th Gen either but much of the running gear is stronger than the 3rd Gen. Motor, Brakes and front axle dif and CVs are stronger. The FJC uses 4th Gen parts all over. I had a stock FJC follow me on John Bull too and the bumpers almost went home in the trunk.
How about considering a used GX. They look cool and built on the same parts.
How about considering a used GX. They look cool and built on the same parts.
11-08-2009, 12:07 PM
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I'm not sure what to think on this one. I do love my 3rd gen, its been the best vehicle I have ever owned. I could mod it out lightly, little 3"lift with some bead locks and 32/33's. I do drive it often for meetings and such for my job, so I can't have some monster pull up, and then me jump out in dress slacks..
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