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Old 06-18-2008, 12:20 PM
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no it looks like the 3.slow
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Is it possible for you to get an air fuel ratio, and post it up, because im VERY concerned you are running lean and will do irreperable (sp?) damage to the motor.

Some of the air meters look the same but work differently.
IE. some vary the resistance up and some go down as the flapper opens.

Its easy to test this but you need to make sure it is the same as your stock one.
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I would pull your plugs to see if you're leaning out.

http://www.theultralightplace.com/sparkplugs.htm
Old 06-18-2008, 05:44 PM
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So it will only work on a 3.0 huh..

I wonder what you could swap into a 22R(E) and do an increase? An older Corolla 20r/22R?
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x2 i want to know if you're leaning out! get back to us ASAP
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If the new AFM was making the truck run lean wouldn't the O2 pick up on the lean condition which would tel the ECU to add more fuel?
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if im not mistaken the flapper door kicks out a reducing voltage as the cfm increases on the camry vafm. The 3vze's is normal and does the opposite..........

you should definately check to see if you are leaning out
Old 06-19-2008, 12:11 AM
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Or get a voltage meter and have someone give it some gas.
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Originally Posted by CC_yota
If the new AFM was making the truck run lean wouldn't the O2 pick up on the lean condition which would tel the ECU to add more fuel?
In theory yes but it can only do so much. The AFM is directly linked to EFI and has a huge say as to how much fuel gets sprayed. Plus the O2 is probably old and dirty.

also if it is giving a reverse signal the little difference the 02 will make is insignifigant compared to the huge difference it will make when the ECU is reading a signal that is way off what it should be.
Old 06-19-2008, 12:06 PM
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im gona check today if i get a chance and see how the plugs look and compare and try to take a picture if i bring my camra. i put a new o2 sencer in a a few month a go
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progress?
Old 06-20-2008, 05:44 PM
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ok if it goes backwards like voltage sweaps from other then stock then how would the truck run at idle? or even at wot? so i think that he is running fine but y\ehy its better to know now then later with a new motor and a flat back pocket
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Hmmm, If it does run lean would it balance out a bad o2 sensor running rich. Wishful thinking, but then again hmmmm.
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if the voltage is backwards it really shouldnt run at all or at the very least throw a code after the ecm starts ignoring the vafm's output. But hey I could be wrong about the vafm.

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Originally Posted by just a 22re
ok if it goes backwards like voltage sweaps from other then stock then how would the truck run at idle? or even at wot? so i think that he is running fine but y\ehy its better to know now then later with a new motor and a flat back pocket
That is a good point but consider this too: The opening is about 1/2 inch bigger thats alot more air volume to cope with. I dont know if the stock ECU can handle that. Like you said better to be sure.

I know that as a fellow 3.0 owner I would love to have a cheap way to have her breathe more with minimal modification. Plus they run a little rich anyway.
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ah yes a lil more air and she might get confused lol. to fix that is easy up the fuel pressure a lil to over come it or just a lil bigger injectors maybe but then again more fuel and air means more money at the pumps but i think i can over come that as my rig now runns really rich but yet again its just a 22re
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dirtpup where are ya? we's needs updates haha
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If everybody is worried about the engine running lean with the new AFM and possible different eletronics in it, then you could swap the electronics from the old AFM into the new one and it will work just like stock.
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Originally Posted by myyota
If everybody is worried about the engine running lean with the new AFM and possible different eletronics in it, then you could swap the electronics from the old AFM into the new one and it will work just like stock.
good call haha
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Originally Posted by myyota
If everybody is worried about the engine running lean with the new AFM and possible different eletronics in it, then you could swap the electronics from the old AFM into the new one and it will work just like stock.
no it won't, it would let more air in than the sensor would read, and you would have the same problem.. not to mention how much of a pain in the a$$ it would be to swap the electronics.

instead, you would need to adjust the camry AFM.


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