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Old 05-09-2008, 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 943kgt
holy crap this happend with engnbldr's kit?
no, he said OEM.
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Originally Posted by 943kgt
holy crap this happend with engnbldr's kit?
No, No, No! This kit was NOT from Engnbldr, Toyota, LC Engineering or 22RE.com!

I'd rather not talk about who sold it. I'd prefer to just leave it by saying defective parts can happen to anyone.

My point is that even the most holiest of grails will have exceptions and so you just need to take care in installing, maintaining and checking everything just the same. Doing valve lash adjustments, even with metal guides take the time to grab a flashlight and take a look.

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Old 05-09-2008, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by thook
True, true, true. It all still has to come apart if the chain fails. But, atleast the timing cover water jacket is protected. Wooohooo!
That was my reasoning, that the metal guide would keep the timing cover intact. But in this case, it seems the piece broke off, lodged between the chain and gear and that snapped the chain. I didn't realize what was going on when it happened, but it was a pretty violent failure. The engine went from running to dead in a couple of seconds.
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I have the steel guides from DOA Racing and engbldr's single row timing chain/sprockets kit. It went together tight and is running nice, only 600 miles so far though.
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Originally Posted by DaveInDenver
That was my reasoning, that the metal guide would keep the timing cover intact. But in this case, it seems the piece broke off, lodged between the chain and gear and that snapped the chain. I didn't realize what was going on when it happened, but it was a pretty violent failure. The engine went from running to dead in a couple of seconds.
That's what I mean by "bad design". You don't notice it until it's too late, and the damage is never kind. My situation was exactly the same. There I was at the feed store not knowing what the hell just happened. Can't go any where, can't see the problem....you just know it ain't good.

That being said, I know now whenever it starts to rattle is the time to get on the ball and buy a new kit.....and, cross your fingers you don't get a lemon. 40k miles....that bites.

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Old 05-09-2008, 08:14 PM
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I always thought that initial rattle before the oil pressure came up was the rod bearings... at least on my engine... (200k miles) I had to run 20-50 to keep any oil pressure at all...
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I mean the "typical" rattle from a slack chain (a chain that has stretched beyond spec) or a worn tensioner guide.....barring any other abnormalities. If you had chain rattle from worn rod bearings, I can't imagine how bad they must've been or how they got that way within 200k. That's not an average situation. Did you get it fixed, though?
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