Pretty bad camber on lift
03-22-2009, 04:01 PM
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Pretty bad camber on lift
Hello all!
This is my first post and just wanted to mention i did try searching first but i could not find my answer. I have a 92 Toyota pickup 4X4 that has a 3 inch body and 6 inch suspension lift on it with 33 12.5 15 tires. It has camber on the inside (can't remember if its +or-). I just bought the truck 2 months ago and its eating through the tires. Is there a camber kit to correct this or do i just need to find a decent shop to do the alignment again. PS. The previous owner did the lift.
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This is my first post and just wanted to mention i did try searching first but i could not find my answer. I have a 92 Toyota pickup 4X4 that has a 3 inch body and 6 inch suspension lift on it with 33 12.5 15 tires. It has camber on the inside (can't remember if its +or-). I just bought the truck 2 months ago and its eating through the tires. Is there a camber kit to correct this or do i just need to find a decent shop to do the alignment again. PS. The previous owner did the lift.
Thanks
03-22-2009, 04:07 PM
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What kind of lift?
With cranked torsion bars or ball joint spacers, you get a lot of positive camber, so your wheels will point like this: \ /
If they have a drop bracket lift in combo with the cranked torsion bars, it will experience the same problem. If it doesn't have the crop bracket lift, you will need to get that in order to completely correct the camber issue. With stock parts, it can only be aligned so much before you reach its limits.
With cranked torsion bars or ball joint spacers, you get a lot of positive camber, so your wheels will point like this: \ /
If they have a drop bracket lift in combo with the cranked torsion bars, it will experience the same problem. If it doesn't have the crop bracket lift, you will need to get that in order to completely correct the camber issue. With stock parts, it can only be aligned so much before you reach its limits.
03-22-2009, 04:22 PM
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What kind of lift?
With cranked torsion bars or ball joint spacers, you get a lot of positive camber, so your wheels will point like this: \ /
If they have a drop bracket lift in combo with the cranked torsion bars, it will experience the same problem. If it doesn't have the crop bracket lift, you will need to get that in order to completely correct the camber issue. With stock parts, it can only be aligned so much before you reach its limits.
With cranked torsion bars or ball joint spacers, you get a lot of positive camber, so your wheels will point like this: \ /
If they have a drop bracket lift in combo with the cranked torsion bars, it will experience the same problem. If it doesn't have the crop bracket lift, you will need to get that in order to completely correct the camber issue. With stock parts, it can only be aligned so much before you reach its limits.
03-22-2009, 04:33 PM
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it has recently come to my attention that they dont make 6" lifts only 4", can you clear 35"? my truck in the sig has a 4" susp and 3" body on 35" and clears fairly well, sounds like you have most likely BJ spacers and he cranked the HELL out of your torsion bars, show us a pic to better understand!! oh yeah and Welcome To The Forum
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03-22-2009, 04:42 PM
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im pretty sure with T-bars cranked your gonna be riding on the outside of the tire...no more of this /\/\/\/\/\/
right?? im kinda thinking of a ford TTB with lift springs and no drop bracket...
right?? im kinda thinking of a ford TTB with lift springs and no drop bracket...
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03-22-2009, 04:46 PM
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You better go back and look at it again.
If you crank the Tbars, the wheels will look like this: \ /
Thats why when you see vehicles with cranked Tbars, the outer edge of the tire is always worn out.
if it went the other way, the inner edge of the tire would wear out.
If you crank the Tbars, the wheels will look like this: \ /
Thats why when you see vehicles with cranked Tbars, the outer edge of the tire is always worn out.
if it went the other way, the inner edge of the tire would wear out.
03-22-2009, 04:55 PM
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well wtf then???
my T-bars are SLIGHTLY cranked, and I just recently had new tires installed, and an alignment done
while the truck was getting aligned, you could actually SEE the tires pointing in at the top before he started messing with it...
and the guy doing the alignment even showed me...
and the alignment STILL isn't right because of it... their still angling in some, and you can still tell by looing at the truck
I might have to snap a pic tomorrow to prove my point
my T-bars are SLIGHTLY cranked, and I just recently had new tires installed, and an alignment done
while the truck was getting aligned, you could actually SEE the tires pointing in at the top before he started messing with it...
and the guy doing the alignment even showed me...
and the alignment STILL isn't right because of it... their still angling in some, and you can still tell by looing at the truck
I might have to snap a pic tomorrow to prove my point
03-22-2009, 05:09 PM
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BJ spacers (without a t-bar adjustment) will push the lower arm down causing it to pull the bottom of the wheel in so \ / is how they'd ride. With a t-bar crank and the angle the upper arm moves compounded by the spacer, they'd end up / \.
You're both right.
You're both right.
03-22-2009, 05:11 PM
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that's kinda the same theory I was thinking
03-22-2009, 05:31 PM
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Yeah.
Putting the BJ spacers on pushes the LCA down, pulling the lower balljoint inwards (since the LCA / lower balljoint is already below horzontal). So you end up \ /.
Cranking the t-bars pushes the UCA down, pulling the upper balljoint inwards since the UCA is below horizontal (and moves the lower balljoint inwards too), but due to the BJ spacer, the upper BJ moves inwards at a faster rate than the lower and with only a little bit of crank, the upper joint moves inside of the lower joint causing / \.
But I think I already said that.
Putting the BJ spacers on pushes the LCA down, pulling the lower balljoint inwards (since the LCA / lower balljoint is already below horzontal). So you end up \ /.
Cranking the t-bars pushes the UCA down, pulling the upper balljoint inwards since the UCA is below horizontal (and moves the lower balljoint inwards too), but due to the BJ spacer, the upper BJ moves inwards at a faster rate than the lower and with only a little bit of crank, the upper joint moves inside of the lower joint causing / \.
But I think I already said that.
