toyospearo

Aside from everything else solid axles look cool!

89silverpu

I meant is he seriously asking the question lol....if you have to ask an online message board whether or not to SAS you don't need to. save your money and have fun with what you have already.

toyospearo

I dont think a messege board is such a bad place to push you over the edge into SA land.
There are quite a few people on here who I have a ton of respect for and value their opinions. The repeated statement "if you have to ask you don't need it" is not only arrogant it is ignorant.
I think message boards are GREAT sources for knowledge and info. Why shouldn't the idea to transition to a SAS be partly relegated to a message board

rusche

Save your money for lockers and gears

waskillywabbit

iTrader: (-1)

Simple answer. Baby steps.

As you will soon discover, doing a SAS on a vehicle is a HUGE expense of labor and parts and typically a SAS is only the beginning of the expenditures. The SAS is the first snowball that builds the snowman.

Going from a built IFS truck to a SAS is one thing, but from a stock truck to a SAS (assuming no previous wheeling experience or knowledge thereof) is a leap at best. Sure it is doable, but unadvisable and unneccessary IMO.

Wheel what you got. If you want more, go for it.

I started with a $20K 3rd gen and built it. Then I decided I really didn't want to bash and thrash on a $20K truck that was less than 5 years old.

Now I bash on a 23+ year old truck that is $20K.

Wheel IFS. Wheel SAS. Wheel your big wheel. Just wheel. I have come to remember this after taking a break and working on my own trucks again over the holidays.

jsn_stockard

Well put Wabbit, I think you are becoming a great philosopher!

toyospearo

At this point my snowball is somewhere between pre school and adolescence and I am looking at a dual transfer case.
Damn this is fun!

tc

That's signature material right there!

waskillywabbit

iTrader: (-1)

I have a Masters in BS (seriously)

Just remember me when you come into your money tree.

Glad to know my fodder is good for something these days.

stagger_lee

You guys ever wonder what happens to the thread starters? Seems like there is always some random hero that asks a question and the same 6 or so guys beat the subject to death along with each other, only never to hear from the OP again? just curious if I was the only one that thought that.

Slowstrike

first off where do you see a 22re pushing 44inch tires?????? second I run 33''s with 5.29s and IFS, my best friend I wheel with runs dana 44 axles and 33''s (and hes ezlock rear im only posi) and guess who does better in mud ? not the rig that does better in the rocks.

not to be dick but I was speaking real life trail applications not some huge piece of mud truck that has nothing left that is toyota but the body panels. Notice I said in the mud not built for mud........The best rigs take you wherever you want to go not just one place one use. enough web wheeling for me ill shut it now.

AxleIke

No crying, but did ask for help....LOL. I didn't like that "Slip and I'm rolling into a big crack" feel. But yeah, did get pretty nervous.

iamsuperbleeder

AxleIke, that's good stuff right there; I love seeing IFS wheeling vids, nobody seems to want to post any. Sure there's the IFS Flex thread, but that's just a collection of pics; videos are where it's at I say that, and of caurse I only have one wheeling vid of my 91 IFS... romping through some muddy-nastyness out back one day, lol



Aside from that, like I said before, I like my IFS, and it does me well, but like everyone else has said, and is going to say, it does in fact depend on the plans for the truck.

In Florida, about the most crazy thing I'll have to flex on to get over is a high curb in the parking lots, and it handles those very well I might add

On another note, it's also my DD, so a SAS really wouldn't be practicle for me; plus my IFS rides FAR better on the road than any SASed vehicle I've ever been in...

TOYOTA 1

@ superbleeder i agree! if ifs works for you and the trails/wheelin you do then it would be a waste of time and money to sas. its all about building a rig to fit your specific needs.

rdharper

What's wrong with my solution... I think it is cheaper.

That is, buy one of each! I like 'em both. The rugged nature of the solid axle, and the smooth handling of the independent suspension.

Then again, my wife puts the most miles on both.

abecedarian

How about quick-disconnect subframe assemblies... one IFS and one SAS?

iamsuperbleeder

well I'm spending some money on my IFS right now, so I'm not going to claim that staying IFS is still cheaper than a SAS, lol


idler arm brace, BJ-spacers, diff drop, t-case cross member, all new tie-rod ends, all bew BJs, all new shocks, yada yada yada...

TOYOTA 1

haha, there ya go! lol

iamsuperbleeder

tell ya what, you make one, and I'll consider buying a kit from you

904_runner

we can use your 4runner for the first one!