I Hate Wireless Routers

oly884 · 08-24-2005, 08:06 AM

So, they suck.

This damn thing keeps dropping my internet connection. Well, JUST the web, not anything else. If I have a DL going, it will keep going just fine, but the web won't work at all.

I've tried rebooting it in the correct order several times. I've contacted my ISP and they don't know what's going on. I'm this close to draging this thing behind my truck, then lighting it of fire, then piss on the ashes, followed by mailing the burn POS that has piss all over it back to netgear.

sorry had to vent. any ideas?

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Localmotion · 08-24-2005, 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oly884

So, they suck.

This damn thing keeps dropping my internet connection. Well, JUST the web, not anything else. If I have a DL going, it will keep going just fine, but the web won't work at all.

I've tried rebooting it in the correct order several times. I've contacted my ISP and they don't know what's going on. I'm this close to draging this thing behind my truck, then lighting it of fire, then piss on the ashes, followed by mailing the burn POS that has piss all over it back to netgear.

sorry had to vent. any ideas?

i have a linksys wireless router and it works great! I even play games on the internet and no lag or spikes. netgear is probably the cheapest of them all i would say. Linksys is quality, its made by cisco systems.

calrockx · 08-24-2005, 08:16 AM

i have a linksys and have the same problem as oly.
i miss being wired.

Localmotion · 08-24-2005, 08:17 AM

hmm..thats wierd. your dl continues but you get kicked off the internet? doesnt add up. If you lose connection you should lose the dl unless it saves where it last cut off. Mabye you could get a booster?

Churnd · 08-24-2005, 08:21 AM

Since it's being "picky", i'd say it's more likely a problem with your computer rather than the router. Do virus and spyware scans exhaustively, then we'll go from there.

Localmotion · 08-24-2005, 08:24 AM

is your signal at full strength? are you using a usb wireless reciever or one in the PCI slot?

oly884 · 08-24-2005, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Localmotion

is your signal at full strength? are you using a usb wireless reciever or one in the PCI slot?

I'm wired to it, my two other roomies are wireless.

Chris, I've reset every thing on my comp. The only other thing I can do is reinstall windows. So, I really don't know what the problem is. The thing that gets me is that it's very intermittent. It'll go for a day or so, the do this every 3 mins.

arjan · 08-24-2005, 09:59 AM

I recently replaced my linksys with a SMC. Night and day difference on the range connection. Linksys is overvalued junk imo.
The smc just works, the linksys had to be reset every so often or I had no connection at all.
But then again, SMC used to build the better arcnet network cards in the late eighties. They've been around for a while.
I guess when routers bugger up, there isn't a whole lot we can do except replace it.

data · 08-24-2005, 10:43 AM

Have you guys upped the firmware on your wireless AP/routers?

arjan · 08-24-2005, 11:03 AM

First thing I usually do.

Yamaha+Toyota=Fun · 08-24-2005, 11:22 AM

I have a linksys and have the same problem as you guys, its really startin to tick me off...

Churnd · 08-24-2005, 11:23 AM

I would upgrade the firmware too, as the next step.

If that doesn't work, try bypassing the router for a day or two and see what happens.

If the problems "disappear", look into another router. I've used D-Link stuff for years with zero problems. Kicker is, I got both my routers for $20 each, after rebates.

data · 08-24-2005, 12:49 PM

I just purchased a D-Link wireless AP and it rocks...

Churnd · 08-24-2005, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by data

I just purchased a D-Link wireless AP and it rocks...

I've noticed that Linksys stuff works pretty good... when you're using it other Linksys stuff. Try mixing it up with anything else, chaos ensues. My D-Link routers have just plain worked.

Dublin · 08-24-2005, 04:18 PM

Never had any problems at all with the Airports other than a few capacitor problems on the early graphites. They seem to work very well with both Apple airport cards and PC notebook adapters. JMO

green91runner · 09-07-2005, 08:51 PM

smc routers work worth crap, linksys are hit any miss, and dlinks are by far the most rocksolid of any router I've had.. and it only cost me $15. oh, and I wouldn't touch hawking tech with a 10' pole.

Cebby · 09-07-2005, 08:59 PM

My Linksys stuff has been great. I migrated to Netgear for an integrated wireless/router, but had the problem with dropping connections. I got so frustrated that I went back to Linksys with a separate router and separate wireless access point. Easy to pinpoint a problem this way.

Steveh29 · 09-08-2005, 09:43 AM

I had a Linksys wireless hub that worked great for years, then it got slower and slower, but never really died. I replaced it with a Netgear wireless hub which constantly dropped the connection - but did so across the board. Downloads, email, everything. Once I upgraded the firmware, I had no more problems and it works fine.

WATRD · 09-08-2005, 10:48 AM

Is this on laptop where the signal gets dropped? If so, you are very likely experiencing the power management problem. Intel has a TSB about it. There seems to be a bug in the way that Intel implemented power management in some chipsets and it mistakenly detects a lack activity and puts the wireless card to sleep, even though it is in use. 99% of the time, disabling the power management feature of the wireless card solves the problem.

I have been suffering with dropped wireless connections for the past couple of months, with exaclty the same symptoms you describe. Some days it was worse than others. I spent a week or so exploring possible solutions and finally stumbled upon some info about the power management problem. A quick fix and I haven't been dropped since

Paul H. · 09-08-2005, 05:44 PM

I have d-link also and have not had any problems since set up.

oly884 · 09-08-2005, 06:35 PM

I found the prob, one of my room mate's comps sucks major balls and 1/2. So, i made him reformat it

08-24-2005, 08:16 AM	#3 (permalink)
calrockx Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Santa Clarita, California Posts: 4,742	i have a linksys and have the same problem as oly. i miss being wired. __________________ [2002 4Runner 4WD]

08-24-2005, 08:21 AM	#5 (permalink)
Churnd Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Hattiesburg, MS Posts: 4,093	Since it's being "picky", i'd say it's more likely a problem with your computer rather than the router. Do virus and spyware scans exhaustively, then we'll go from there. __________________ -Chris If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. Click here to search! My Website

08-24-2005, 09:59 AM	#8 (permalink)
arjan Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Mission, British Columbia Posts: 1,558	I recently replaced my linksys with a SMC. Night and day difference on the range connection. Linksys is overvalued junk imo. The smc just works, the linksys had to be reset every so often or I had no connection at all. But then again, SMC used to build the better arcnet network cards in the late eighties. They've been around for a while. I guess when routers bugger up, there isn't a whole lot we can do except replace it. __________________ 2006 4Runner V8 Sports Edition Red 1997 4Runner 3.4L Bushwacker Flares, 5spd, E locker

08-24-2005, 10:43 AM	#9 (permalink)
data Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arkansas Posts: 1,915	Have you guys upped the firmware on your wireless AP/routers? __________________ 98 Limited 4x4, Rockstomper skid, Rockware Front bumper, Warn HS9500i, 1" RB BL, Tundra coils front & OME HD rear, Nuke quick discos, diff drop'd, 305/70/16 Baja Claws, Electric Locker, couple of battle scars, but nothing major :)

08-24-2005, 11:03 AM	#10 (permalink)
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08-24-2005, 08:17 AM	#4 (permalink)
Localmotion Banned Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 0	hmm..thats wierd. your dl continues but you get kicked off the internet? doesnt add up. If you lose connection you should lose the dl unless it saves where it last cut off. Mabye you could get a booster?

08-24-2005, 08:24 AM	#6 (permalink)
Localmotion Banned Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 0	is your signal at full strength? are you using a usb wireless reciever or one in the PCI slot?

08-24-2005, 11:22 AM	#11 (permalink)
Yamaha+Toyota=Fun Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Bellingham, Washington and Ketchikan, Alaska Posts: 1,081	I have a linksys and have the same problem as you guys, its really startin to tick me off... __________________ 92 pickup... sold 90 integra- b18b turbo, intercooled, 10 lbs of boost, 240 whp... blown up 79 2wd yota pickup

08-24-2005, 11:23 AM	#12 (permalink)
Churnd Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Hattiesburg, MS Posts: 4,093	I would upgrade the firmware too, as the next step. If that doesn't work, try bypassing the router for a day or two and see what happens. If the problems "disappear", look into another router. I've used D-Link stuff for years with zero problems. Kicker is, I got both my routers for $20 each, after rebates. __________________ -Chris If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. Click here to search! My Website

08-24-2005, 12:49 PM	#13 (permalink)
data Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arkansas Posts: 1,915	I just purchased a D-Link wireless AP and it rocks... __________________ 98 Limited 4x4, Rockstomper skid, Rockware Front bumper, Warn HS9500i, 1" RB BL, Tundra coils front & OME HD rear, Nuke quick discos, diff drop'd, 305/70/16 Baja Claws, Electric Locker, couple of battle scars, but nothing major :)

08-24-2005, 04:18 PM	#15 (permalink)
Dublin Contributing Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Appleton, Wi. USA Posts: 884	Never had any problems at all with the Airports other than a few capacitor problems on the early graphites. They seem to work very well with both Apple airport cards and PC notebook adapters. JMO __________________ 94 4Runner 4x4, V6 Auto, Outlaw II's with BFG 33x12.5x15 on stock suspension (no lift), Kenwood KDC-MVP Sirius/MP3 player, Bushwacker extenda-flares, 1700 watt power inverter, Air intake mod, Radio Shack CB, GPS, Swing arm tire carrier, modified 1st gen Toyota 4Runner Rollbar, Aisin manual hubs, 87 inclinometer, Toyota Brush guard. Where ever you go, there you are. I started out with nothing & still have most of it left.

09-07-2005, 08:51 PM	#16 (permalink)
green91runner Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: thunder bay, ontario Posts: 897	smc routers work worth crap, linksys are hit any miss, and dlinks are by far the most rocksolid of any router I've had.. and it only cost me $15. oh, and I wouldn't touch hawking tech with a 10' pole. __________________ 1991 4Runner SR5 3.0L 4wd 5Spd, 31x10.5 ATs, HG replaced 02/05, 320,000km 2008 Acura CSX 2.0L 5Spd, Leather, Sunroof, Wing, Fog Lights, VSA, TC, 10,000km

09-07-2005, 08:59 PM	#17 (permalink)
Cebby Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 11,246	My Linksys stuff has been great. I migrated to Netgear for an integrated wireless/router, but had the problem with dropping connections. I got so frustrated that I went back to Linksys with a separate router and separate wireless access point. Easy to pinpoint a problem this way. __________________ UZswap.com A site dedicated to sharing info for swapping the Toyota/ Lexus UZ (V8) engines into Toyota Trucks and 4Runners. My 4Runner 1993 4Runner, 1UZ (V8) auto dual ultimate crawler, double locked, 35's on beadlocked SR5 alloys, low lift, hacked fenders, tubbed firewall, custom armor TOOLandFAB.com A discussion forum dedicated to tools, fabrication & workshops. See my JD2 Bender Hydro Conversion BUY THIS 2008 CALENDAR

09-08-2005, 09:43 AM	#18 (permalink)
Steveh29 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 726	I had a Linksys wireless hub that worked great for years, then it got slower and slower, but never really died. I replaced it with a Netgear wireless hub which constantly dropped the connection - but did so across the board. Downloads, email, everything. Once I upgraded the firmware, I had no more problems and it works fine. __________________ Steve 1995 4Runner - V6 - 5 Speed Rear ARB, Manual Hubs, Front TruTrac, Marlin Transmission, ARB Front & Sonoran Steel Rear bumpers that have saved my life!!

09-08-2005, 10:48 AM	#19 (permalink)
WATRD Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Duvall, WA Posts: 5,109	Is this on laptop where the signal gets dropped? If so, you are very likely experiencing the power management problem. Intel has a TSB about it. There seems to be a bug in the way that Intel implemented power management in some chipsets and it mistakenly detects a lack activity and puts the wireless card to sleep, even though it is in use. 99% of the time, disabling the power management feature of the wireless card solves the problem. I have been suffering with dropped wireless connections for the past couple of months, with exaclty the same symptoms you describe. Some days it was worse than others. I spent a week or so exploring possible solutions and finally stumbled upon some info about the power management problem. A quick fix and I haven't been dropped since __________________ -Rob Slightly Modified 2001 Tacoma - WATRD.COM WATTORA is becoming NWToys! Tread Lightly! certified Tread Trainer Search 100+ Toyota tech sites, including this one: Toyota Tech Search

09-08-2005, 06:35 PM	#21 (permalink)
oly884 Contributing Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 4,703	I found the prob, one of my room mate's comps sucks major balls and 1/2. So, i made him reformat it

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