Solid Axle Swap

4Runner92sr5 · 06-15-2005, 10:30 PM

How much do you guys think a solid axle swap is professionally done?

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MellamoPOUND · 06-15-2005, 10:46 PM

To help you out this time.... it would probably cost 10k or more if its done right. Its costs most people 5-8k to do it themselves.

Search the forums next time, its been brought up a lot

DudeBud · 06-15-2005, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by MellamoPOUND

To help you out this time.... it would probably cost 10k or more if its done right. Its costs most people 5-8k to do it themselves.

Search the forums next time, its been brought up a lot

seriously now thats kinda high. look to spend around $1500- $3000

Phalanx · 06-15-2005, 10:53 PM

Marlin does the labor for $1400. Do what you can yourself. I'm in the process of an SAS. I just finished rebuilding the axle. I'm having the hangers welded on by a local shop and the driveshaft custom made. The rest is just grinding and wrenching. Lots of details can be found on Pirate4x4.

jimbo74 · 06-15-2005, 10:54 PM

there is a guy on here thats posted within the last day or so selling a whole SAS front end with steering kit and no third for $900

Robinhood150 · 06-15-2005, 10:57 PM

Check my sig line.

Edit: also check out the price list recently posted: http://yotatech.com/showthread.php?t=61135
He's over $5k just in parts.

DudeBud · 06-15-2005, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Robinhood150

Check my sig line.

914runner · 06-16-2005, 02:41 AM

If you do it yourself, and shop for deals on everything, or buy used, it can be done easily under $3,000 (longs, e-locker or ARB, regear...etc.). Then like someone posted above, Marlin charges $1,400 in labor. I have seen labor for an SAS run anywhere from $300-$2,000.

NCSU-4runner · 06-16-2005, 08:23 AM

if you live anywhere near NC i'll do it for alot less than the $1400 marlin wants

MellamoPOUND · 06-16-2005, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by DudeBud

seriously now thats kinda high. look to spend around $1500- $3000

I guess I forgot it was a 2nd gen which companies already make kits for. Still, I would say it will cost more than 3k.

anthony1 · 06-16-2005, 11:18 PM

By asking that question, I suspect that you don't have the equipment or the know how to do it yourself. I don't know where you live but if you're in CA, you can go to Marlin, He's the best. I think you're looking at around 6K or more. If you want ARB vs lock right, that's gonna make a difference. Some thing to think about also is do you want to do it right the first time or add stuff later. Ex. do it without lockers, diff armors. run with used semiballed tires. ......

red90runner · 06-26-2005, 08:16 PM

Its gonna be alot more than $3,000 for sure. I have been looking into this for my 1990 4runner for two years now. I have studied everything and I plan on doing it right the first time. Figure 1500 for the front kit from marlin, 1400 for installation. The rear will probably be 1000 installed with shocks etc. There is so much little stuff you have to remember like brake lines, driveshafts, etc. And, if you are doing an SAS you probably will be running 35"+ tires so gears is another 1,000. I plan on spending about $6000-$7000 and I will be doing the work myself or with friends help. But I am doing f&r ARB's, 5.29's, High pinion front 3rd member, marlin front kit, 63" chevies in the rear and 36" iroks. Good luck.

-Patrick

DudeBud · 06-26-2005, 10:55 PM

why do you guys spend so much if you are doing the work yourself. gears=1000
learn to set them up yourself, there are plenty of writeups all over the internet. driveline the ifs one should work. I have used them before an have had no problems. the marlin sas hanger kit is less than $200 not including shipping, then you can couse what springs you want to use. im all about saving money and building most everything maybe thats why I think it is cheaper.

44Runner · 06-26-2005, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DudeBud

why do you guys spend so much if you are doing the work yourself. gears=1000
learn to set them up yourself, there are plenty of writeups all over the internet. driveline the ifs one should work. I have used them before an have had no problems. the marlin sas hanger kit is less than $200 not including shipping, then you can couse what springs you want to use. im all about saving money and building most everything maybe thats why I think it is cheaper.

because to do a SAS right you have to spend a lot of money. Gears are not the only expense on an axle. The axle I have under my truck was over 20 years old when it went under there. I replaced everything. Every bearing, balljoint and seal. That adds up. Not to mention the gears and then the locker. New u-joints. All the wire wheels I used cleaning the grunge off the axle and all the paint I used to make it look new again. New knuckles and steering arms. I didn't pay a dime for labor but my swap was done right and was expensive. Do one first, brag later...

David

DudeBud · 06-26-2005, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 44Runner

because to do a SAS right you have to spend a lot of money. Gears are not the only expense on an axle. The axle I have under my truck was over 20 years old when it went under there. I replaced everything. Every bearing, balljoint and seal. That adds up. Not to mention the gears and then the locker. New u-joints. All the wire wheels I used cleaning the grunge off the axle and all the paint I used to make it look new again. New knuckles and steering arms. I didn't pay a dime for labor but my swap was done right and was expensive. Do one first, brag later...

sDavid

how was i braging? i've done a few sas. sure its going to cost a lot if you buy everything new also i did not know that you need new gears and lockers to get the job done all the thread starter asked was how much it costs to have it done. there is nothing in his post that asks about lockers, gears and u-joints but whatever...

44Runner · 06-27-2005, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by 4Runner92sr5

How much do you guys think a solid axle swap is professionally done?

Quote:

Originally Posted by MellamoPOUND

To help you out this time.... it would probably cost 10k or more if its done right. Its costs most people 5-8k to do it themselves.

Search the forums next time, its been brought up a lot

Quote:

Originally Posted by DudeBud

seriously now thats kinda high. look to spend around $1500- $3000

Quote:

Originally Posted by DudeBud

how was i braging? i've done a few sas. sure its going to cost a lot if you buy everything new also i did not know that you need new gears and lockers to get the job done all the thread starter asked was how much it costs to have it done. there is nothing in his post that asks about lockers, gears and u-joints but whatever...

So you seriously think this guy was asking how much it would cost to do a SAS with the same size lift he has now so he doesn't need to do anything out back. With the same size tires so there is no need to regear. Without a locker, because why would anyone want to throw one of those in while they have an axle out of the truck. Without rebuilding the axle, I mean its only 20 years old what could possibly be wrong with it. Stock steering, why not everything else is.

If you thought all this then I guess you are right, it can be done as cheaply as you say it can by a pro... :pat:

DudeBud · 06-27-2005, 12:32 AM

whatever you say..... I dont feel like arguing with you.

AxleIke · 06-27-2005, 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by DudeBud

why do you guys spend so much if you are doing the work yourself. gears=1000
learn to set them up yourself, there are plenty of writeups all over the internet.

I don't think he's got the set up to do it. I tried with mine, and it was a disaster. Unless you really know what you are doing, you MUST have a shop press, and it will take you HOURS AND HOURS just to set up the gears. Zuk was saying it takes him a couple of hours, and he does gears all the time. It took a professional almost 10 hours to do mine, (then again i probably made it harder for him) But still, gears and a limited slip cost me 1300 total. Locker will be more.

Intrepid · 06-27-2005, 02:23 AM

Fox Fab in Rhode Island wants around $1200 plus parts to do it...

**waskillywabbit** · 06-27-2005, 03:57 PM

If you have to ask about how much it costs you can't afford it.

Flygtenstein · 06-27-2005, 06:15 PM

I want to see a swap on a late model rig done with less than 30 man hours that is not hack.

On the old junk, heck we could do leaves in long weekend.

Using good parts cost good money. Doing a built high pinin custom axle is a lot better and more expensive than doing a stocker with just a rebuild.

anthony1 · 06-28-2005, 04:39 PM

People, this subject has been argued to death...it's like

for every person that says it will be more than 5K , there's someone who say he can do it for 10 bucks using old parts from deserted air plane on a deserted island.

what we need to do is just ask the guy what he can/can't do. We can just give him choices and he can make up his own mind as to what the total will be. It's all depend on what parts he's willing to spend and what he's willing to leave out.

I can get a 2x2 square, weld a D44 ends to it and run D44 tie rod/s teering. Weld some hangers and put rear toy springs on it and call it a day. That's should be less than 200 bucks. Oh you want it in 4WD?...with drive shafts and gear/diff? and bigger tires too and have the rear to come up the same height? .....Oooooh , that's gonna be extra.

red90runner · 07-04-2005, 06:48 PM

thats funny, that looks exactly like my parts list I am making. Minus the bead locks but I am going with a high pinion front 3rd and v6 3rd for the rear.

06-15-2005, 10:46 PM	#2 (permalink)
MellamoPOUND Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: New Orleans Posts: 568	. To help you out this time.... it would probably cost 10k or more if its done right. Its costs most people 5-8k to do it themselves. Search the forums next time, its been brought up a lot __________________ Larry '97 4runner limited 4x4 w/ Rear Locker Tcase skid - Frankenstein Front End Suspension - OME Rear Suspension - Lars Discos - ARB Taco Bumper - Stubbs Standard Sliders - Cobra 18 WXSTII Cb w/ 4' Firestick II Antenna - 285/75/16 MT/Rs on 16x8 Rockcrawler 97 series wheels - 1" Roger Brown body lift - Bud Built Front Skidplate and more Project Beast II Webpage Denver Univeristy Off-Road Club

06-15-2005, 10:53 PM	#4 (permalink)
Phalanx Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Encinitas, CA Posts: 677	Marlin does the labor for $1400. Do what you can yourself. I'm in the process of an SAS. I just finished rebuilding the axle. I'm having the hangers welded on by a local shop and the driveshaft custom made. The rest is just grinding and wrenching. Lots of details can be found on Pirate4x4. __________________ Rig Specs '94 4Runner 3.0L V6 4x4, 32" BFG Mud T/A KM, 4" SAS, All-Pro Bumpers and Sliders, Rear Cruiser Coils, Bilstien 5150's all around, Warn M8000, K&N Filtercharger, 300w Power Inverter, Optima Yellow Top, Viair 450C, Cobra 75WXST CB w/ Firestik II, Flowmaster 40 Series, Viper Keyless Entry, Rear-Detroit Soft Locker, Front-Detroit EZ Locker Trail Pics

06-15-2005, 10:57 PM	#6 (permalink)
Robinhood150 Contributing Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Wandering around Phoenix Posts: 6,043	Check my sig line. Edit: also check out the price list recently posted: http://yotatech.com/showthread.php?t=61135 He's over $5k just in parts. __________________ Steve. '93 4Runner V6 Auto 4x4 Robinhood's Lair. \|\| Gettin' Off 4wd Club member Lots for sale:5.29 ARB IFS third member... Click Sierra Club policy: [A reason to close trails] ...Physical soil damage, often readily visible, resulting in: a. Erosion, causing soil loss and damage to stream banks, streams, and fish habitat... Lesson...Stay on the TRAIL! Last edited by Robinhood150; 06-15-2005 at 11:34 PM.

06-16-2005, 02:41 AM	#8 (permalink)
914runner Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Tigard, Oregon Posts: 2,083	If you do it yourself, and shop for deals on everything, or buy used, it can be done easily under $3,000 (longs, e-locker or ARB, regear...etc.). Then like someone posted above, Marlin charges $1,400 in labor. I have seen labor for an SAS run anywhere from $300-$2,000. __________________ 1997 Toyota 4Runner, 3.4L (5VZ-FE), 5-Speed (R150F), 4WD, 4.10's, 33's 1998 Toyota 4Runner, 3.4L (5VZ-FE), 5-Speed (R150F), 4WD, 4.10's, 33's 1991 Toyota 4Runner 4 Door, 3.4l (5VZ-FE), 5-Speed (R150F), 4WD, 32's, 4.10's

06-16-2005, 08:23 AM	#9 (permalink)
NCSU-4runner Contributing Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Raleigh NC Posts: 1,597	if you live anywhere near NC i'll do it for alot less than the $1400 marlin wants __________________ Jeremy, 94 4Runner Turbo Leaf Spring SAS front - Coilover 4link rear (starts December) / Supra Swap My Truck is featured on Supracharged.com - Home of the original Supra swap and Forum One of two things will happen, I will die, or the truck will be finished. I'm not sure which will be first.

06-15-2005, 10:54 PM	#5 (permalink)
jimbo74 Banned Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Nor*Cal Posts: 6,582	there is a guy on here thats posted within the last day or so selling a whole SAS front end with steering kit and no third for $900

06-16-2005, 11:18 PM	#11 (permalink)
anthony1 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: torrance, CA. Posts: 976	By asking that question, I suspect that you don't have the equipment or the know how to do it yourself. I don't know where you live but if you're in CA, you can go to Marlin, He's the best. I think you're looking at around 6K or more. If you want ARB vs lock right, that's gonna make a difference. Some thing to think about also is do you want to do it right the first time or add stuff later. Ex. do it without lockers, diff armors. run with used semiballed tires. ...... __________________ http://www.angelfire.com/ca6/954runner GOD's Country Best Seen In A 4 Runner. SAS front: lf,ARB,Ml4",Marlin arms, rear: cable elock,APlinks,OEmu860,35MT/R 5spd, 4:1. ..."But officer, that was not an illegal turn, it was just an undocumented turn."

06-26-2005, 08:16 PM	#12 (permalink)
red90runner Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Walnut Creek, CA Posts: 56	Its gonna be alot more than $3,000 for sure. I have been looking into this for my 1990 4runner for two years now. I have studied everything and I plan on doing it right the first time. Figure 1500 for the front kit from marlin, 1400 for installation. The rear will probably be 1000 installed with shocks etc. There is so much little stuff you have to remember like brake lines, driveshafts, etc. And, if you are doing an SAS you probably will be running 35"+ tires so gears is another 1,000. I plan on spending about $6000-$7000 and I will be doing the work myself or with friends help. But I am doing f&r ARB's, 5.29's, High pinion front 3rd member, marlin front kit, 63" chevies in the rear and 36" iroks. Good luck. -Patrick

06-26-2005, 10:55 PM	#13 (permalink)
DudeBud Contributing Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: WA ,monroe Posts: 1,886	why do you guys spend so much if you are doing the work yourself. gears=1000 learn to set them up yourself, there are plenty of writeups all over the internet. driveline the ifs one should work. I have used them before an have had no problems. the marlin sas hanger kit is less than $200 not including shipping, then you can couse what springs you want to use. im all about saving money and building most everything maybe thats why I think it is cheaper. __________________ Dan 95 4runner 3vze A/T 84 4runner sr5 Ford 302 T-18 4spd yota t-case yota front and rear both open 37X13.00 boggers 88 4runner 22re 5spd

06-27-2005, 12:32 AM	#17 (permalink)
DudeBud Contributing Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: WA ,monroe Posts: 1,886	whatever you say..... I dont feel like arguing with you. __________________ Dan 95 4runner 3vze A/T 84 4runner sr5 Ford 302 T-18 4spd yota t-case yota front and rear both open 37X13.00 boggers 88 4runner 22re 5spd

06-27-2005, 02:23 AM	#19 (permalink)
Intrepid Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Ashburnham, MA Posts: 2,711	Fox Fab in Rhode Island wants around $1200 plus parts to do it... __________________ www.toyotacrawlers.com '85 4runner: 4.7's, FoxFab sliders, custom bumpers, 1" body lift, F-150 springs rear, lockright, welded third, IFS rear axle, 1.5" wheel spacers, high-steer, rears up front, Longs, 38" SX's on steelies, 12Voltguy dual battery, soft top, BMW seats. NO LONGER lacking an engine. :D :D

06-27-2005, 03:57 PM	#20 (permalink)
waskillywabbit Super Moderator-Sponsoring Member Staff Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Tuscaloosa, AL Posts: 14,554	If you have to ask about how much it costs you can't afford it. __________________ WabFab Off-Road, LLC MySpace Twitter Facebook 7th Annual South East 4Runner Jamboree, 2010 The toughest part of a Jeep is the chick driving it. WabFab Off-Road 4th Anniversary Sale

06-27-2005, 06:15 PM	#21 (permalink)
Flygtenstein Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Fort Collins, CO Posts: 4,246	I want to see a swap on a late model rig done with less than 30 man hours that is not hack. On the old junk, heck we could do leaves in long weekend. Using good parts cost good money. Doing a built high pinin custom axle is a lot better and more expensive than doing a stocker with just a rebuild.

06-28-2005, 04:39 PM	#22 (permalink)
anthony1 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: torrance, CA. Posts: 976	People, this subject has been argued to death...it's like for every person that says it will be more than 5K , there's someone who say he can do it for 10 bucks using old parts from deserted air plane on a deserted island. what we need to do is just ask the guy what he can/can't do. We can just give him choices and he can make up his own mind as to what the total will be. It's all depend on what parts he's willing to spend and what he's willing to leave out. I can get a 2x2 square, weld a D44 ends to it and run D44 tie rod/s teering. Weld some hangers and put rear toy springs on it and call it a day. That's should be less than 200 bucks. Oh you want it in 4WD?...with drive shafts and gear/diff? and bigger tires too and have the rear to come up the same height? .....Oooooh , that's gonna be extra. __________________ http://www.angelfire.com/ca6/954runner GOD's Country Best Seen In A 4 Runner. SAS front: lf,ARB,Ml4",Marlin arms, rear: cable elock,APlinks,OEmu860,35MT/R 5spd, 4:1. ..."But officer, that was not an illegal turn, it was just an undocumented turn." Last edited by anthony1; 06-28-2005 at 04:46 PM.

07-04-2005, 06:48 PM	#23 (permalink)
red90runner Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Walnut Creek, CA Posts: 56	thats funny, that looks exactly like my parts list I am making. Minus the bead locks but I am going with a high pinion front 3rd and v6 3rd for the rear.

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