Custom front winch bumper and rear

Blizzard · 01-19-2006, 03:23 PM

Hi yotatechers,

The Spanish 4Runner forum people have been working in a group build of winchbars and rear bumpers.

Finally, we have the cardboard templates of the front bumper. It's almost a copy of an ARB but TJMised, without hoop.

In Spain ARB winchbars are very very expensive, so we decided to build our own and spend less in two bumpers that in an ARB, designing it to be easy and cheap to build (Cuts and bends).

Soon we will have the steel cut with high definition plasma, I think they can cut 7 sheets of metal in one pass.

Let's see some pics:

I'll post some more when we've the metal prepared.

David

PS: Mine is going with a 10000lbs winch. We've designed it to be 10000lbs winch capable.

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bflooks · 01-19-2006, 03:35 PM

are these for sale or what?

Blizzard · 01-19-2006, 03:37 PM

Yeah, but I think the shipping would be a little expensive... We're in Spain!

David

bflooks · 01-19-2006, 03:39 PM

i agree with the shipping costs, but none the less, this would be a great way for localized clubs to figure out costs and what not and compare it to other mass built bumpers.

4RunnerKid · 01-19-2006, 10:33 PM

looks familiar...

just kidding. nice work dude! should look great once it's done. it's got great lines.

**Tofer** · 01-19-2006, 10:37 PM

sexy... are you willing to sell the cardboard template? shipping that would be cheaper

garrett1478 · 01-19-2006, 11:01 PM

the template looks cool! very TJM T17ish. are you going to make each bumper out of one sheet? or is each plane going to be a separate piece?

is the skid plate going to be removable or is it just part of the bumper?

can't wait to see the metal version

Bob_98SR5 · 01-19-2006, 11:17 PM

david,

good luck on the build. if you need measurements on the TJM brackets, i can take pics and put some numbers to them

bob

Blizzard · 01-20-2006, 06:11 AM

Thanks all, I'm glad this is the first time I can show you something...

I don't know exactly how is it done, my friend and his bro who have designed it did it thinking in being simple to fab (Speacially the plasma cuttings) and also to be legalizable here, they can have hoops that stick out farther than the bumper itself, they cannot have cutting edges, must have rounded edges, etc.

I think tomorrow they'd have the drawings in CAD to take them to the plasma cutters.

I'd post as soon as I have something new.

Next is my custom snorkel, will look good I hope.

David

Blizzard · 01-20-2006, 06:13 AM

Ops sorry, the skidplate is a separate piece.

You can notice it don't being straight as yours, the 3.0 Turbo diesel 4Runner has bigger radiator, hangs below the front frame rail:

David

4Hummer · 01-20-2006, 06:31 AM

Nice. I hope it turns out as good as it looks, Keep us updated.

6lug · 01-20-2006, 08:55 AM

How I would love the 3.0 TD in mine!

Epic Ed · 01-20-2006, 09:10 AM

Very nice! Looks a lot like the TJM T17. Are you going to be doing a rear bumper, too?

Ed

d0ubledown · 01-20-2006, 11:34 AM

that looks awesome david...nice work! question: do you have any pics of what youre mocking up bracket wise? or has that part not been figured out yet?

Is this a suitable way of fabbing up a rough template for a bumper? I'm hopefully going to be getting one built this summer, and thought of this route to give to the fabricator..and he can cut & weld the pieces together.

keep us posted on the progress..and dont forget..lots of pics!

ravencr · 01-20-2006, 07:58 PM

Looks nice man!

Chris

Blizzard · 01-21-2006, 02:58 PM

I think the bumper is bolted directly to the frame, no brackets on it, if you name bracket a piece bolted to the frame and where the bumper is bolted to.

Yes, we're fabbing a rear one also, will begin next week with the cardboard templates...

d0ubledown, I think its a good way to imagine how will the bumper look like or what pieces of metal do you need to fab it up.

I'm still trying to decide if adding a hoop in the center (Simillar to an ARB Sahara Bar) or leave if T17-like...

A hoop will protect a bit more the grill, and maybe it's easier to put a pair of lights in it, but a levelled bumper will be nice for attaching a hi-lift...

I think I'll mount it without, then I can imagine or simulate the hoop and see how it performs.

David

ravencr · 01-21-2006, 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blizzard

I think the bumper is bolted directly to the frame, no brackets on it, if you name bracket a piece bolted to the frame and where the bumper is bolted to.

Yes, we're fabbing a rear one also, will begin next week with the cardboard templates...

d0ubledown, I think its a good way to imagine how will the bumper look like or what pieces of metal do you need to fab it up.

I'm still trying to decide if adding a hoop in the center (Simillar to an ARB Sahara Bar) or leave if T17-like...

A hoop will protect a bit more the grill, and maybe it's easier to put a pair of lights in it, but a levelled bumper will be nice for attaching a hi-lift...

I think I'll mount it without, then I can imagine or simulate the hoop and see how it performs.

David

I don't think the hoops do that much function, unless you plan to do an exocage. I think it's mainly for looks.

Chris

Blizzard · 01-22-2006, 10:31 AM

Exocage? Too difficult to do legal here and a bit overkill for me...

David

dragr1 · 01-22-2006, 06:06 PM

Looks good! I look forward to seeing the pics of the rear bumper. Will it include a tire carrier?

Blizzard · 01-22-2006, 10:41 PM

Nope... You're used to have big places to park, here space to park isn't very big in the towns and cities...

Anyways I think the rear tire carrier will be doable, but in my case, I won't install it at the moment, also, it's easier to do legal a bumper without tire carrier.

David

99_Runner · 01-23-2006, 12:13 PM

Can't wait for more pics.

6lug · 01-24-2006, 04:32 PM

what thickness metal are you using for this?

HOJU · 01-24-2006, 07:30 PM

any updates?

Blizzard · 01-25-2006, 05:00 AM

Not yet...

Metal is between 3mm (0.1181'') the cosmetic parts and 8mm (0.315'') the winch cradle.

I don't know exactly how is the project now, I think the shop is plasmaing the metal.

David

garrett1478 · 02-02-2006, 03:16 PM

any updates? :bounce2:

01-19-2006, 03:37 PM	#3 (permalink)
Blizzard Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Barcelona (Spain) Posts: 912	Yeah, but I think the shipping would be a little expensive... We're in Spain! David __________________ '94 Toyota 4Runner 3.0 Turbo Diesel Intercooler Auto – Trail-Gear 4'' SAS front, Trail-Gear 5'' rear leaves swap, 35's, FR&RR E-Lockers and too many things more to write...

01-19-2006, 10:33 PM	#5 (permalink)
4RunnerKid Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Sac + SLO, CA Posts: 1,033	looks familiar... just kidding. nice work dude! should look great once it's done. it's got great lines. __________________ -Mikey- 1993 4Runner ~ TG HD/RUF front \| All Pro rear \| 37" Krawlers \| Marlin UM06s \| 12" King 2.5s \| 2" air bumps \| 12" Fox 2.0s \| Aussie front \| Lock-Right rear \| 5-speed swap \| TG 4.7s \| 5.29s \| 4xInnovations cage \| bumpers \| sliders \| t-case skid \| K&N intake \| Flowmaster 40 \| Optima red top \| clear lenses \| PIAA 1400s \| LED rock lights \| PIAA superwhites \| stereo Polygoats 4-Wheel Drive Club Poly Performance Last edited by 4RunnerKid; 01-19-2006 at 11:49 PM.

01-19-2006, 10:37 PM	#6 (permalink)
Tofer Super Moderator Staff Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Tacoma WA. Posts: 6,905	sexy... are you willing to sell the cardboard template? shipping that would be cheaper __________________ 94 4runenr: all the good stuff....... 89 4runner: 3.0, Auto, 5.29 lockright f/r. 31x10.5 wildcountry ATs. 81 2wd pickup: 22R \| 5-sp \| long bed \|Civic SI seats \| LockRight \| Hella 500s pacific-crawlers.com For all your Trail-gear and HID lighting Solutions Needs check out yotaworks.com Online store coming soon :)

01-20-2006, 06:11 AM	#9 (permalink)
Blizzard Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Barcelona (Spain) Posts: 912	Thanks all, I'm glad this is the first time I can show you something... I don't know exactly how is it done, my friend and his bro who have designed it did it thinking in being simple to fab (Speacially the plasma cuttings) and also to be legalizable here, they can have hoops that stick out farther than the bumper itself, they cannot have cutting edges, must have rounded edges, etc. I think tomorrow they'd have the drawings in CAD to take them to the plasma cutters. I'd post as soon as I have something new. Next is my custom snorkel, will look good I hope. David __________________ '94 Toyota 4Runner 3.0 Turbo Diesel Intercooler Auto – Trail-Gear 4'' SAS front, Trail-Gear 5'' rear leaves swap, 35's, FR&RR E-Lockers and too many things more to write...

01-20-2006, 06:13 AM	#10 (permalink)
Blizzard Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Barcelona (Spain) Posts: 912	Ops sorry, the skidplate is a separate piece. You can notice it don't being straight as yours, the 3.0 Turbo diesel 4Runner has bigger radiator, hangs below the front frame rail: David __________________ '94 Toyota 4Runner 3.0 Turbo Diesel Intercooler Auto – Trail-Gear 4'' SAS front, Trail-Gear 5'' rear leaves swap, 35's, FR&RR E-Lockers and too many things more to write...

01-19-2006, 03:35 PM	#2 (permalink)
bflooks Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: boston, ma Posts: 614	are these for sale or what?

01-19-2006, 03:39 PM	#4 (permalink)
bflooks Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: boston, ma Posts: 614	i agree with the shipping costs, but none the less, this would be a great way for localized clubs to figure out costs and what not and compare it to other mass built bumpers.

01-19-2006, 11:01 PM	#7 (permalink)
garrett1478 Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 0	the template looks cool! very TJM T17ish. are you going to make each bumper out of one sheet? or is each plane going to be a separate piece? is the skid plate going to be removable or is it just part of the bumper? can't wait to see the metal version

01-19-2006, 11:17 PM	#8 (permalink)
Bob_98SR5 Contributing Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 10,092	david, good luck on the build. if you need measurements on the TJM brackets, i can take pics and put some numbers to them bob

01-20-2006, 06:31 AM	#11 (permalink)
4Hummer Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,975	Nice. I hope it turns out as good as it looks, Keep us updated. __________________ Michael 1991 4Runner 22RE. CHOP www.obsessiveoffroadclub.com

01-20-2006, 08:55 AM	#12 (permalink)
6lug Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Sevierville, TN Posts: 292	How I would love the 3.0 TD in mine! __________________ 1993 4Runner, V6, auto, 4.56's, custom rear bumper/tire carrier, Marlin's sliders, All Pro's rear spacers, Warn manual hubs, Surco rack (slightly customized), lights, on 31's, Lockright out back, Safari Snorkel. Now...1998 Jeep Cherokee, 4.0, AW4, 231, HPD30, C8.25, Skyjacker 4", 31" BFG ATs, custom frnt bumper/winch

01-20-2006, 09:10 AM	#13 (permalink)
Epic Ed Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 654	Very nice! Looks a lot like the TJM T17. Are you going to be doing a rear bumper, too? Ed __________________ '95 4Runner\|32x11.5 BFG TA KOs\|Hi-flow Cat\|Dynomax muffler; 2.25" exhaust\| Downey Headers\|4.88 gears \|Detroit EZ locker \|Detroit TruTrack\|BJ spacers\|Downey HD coils\|2" rear spring spacers\|Rancho RS9000X/RS5000s\|WARN hubs\|TJM T15

01-20-2006, 11:34 AM	#14 (permalink)
d0ubledown Contributing Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: vansterdam BC. Posts: 1,432	that looks awesome david...nice work! question: do you have any pics of what youre mocking up bracket wise? or has that part not been figured out yet? Is this a suitable way of fabbing up a rough template for a bumper? I'm hopefully going to be getting one built this summer, and thought of this route to give to the fabricator..and he can cut & weld the pieces together. keep us posted on the progress..and dont forget..lots of pics! __________________ sonny ------- 1998 4Runner LTD. Fabtech CO fronts, OME/Pro Comp rears, SS rear links, Revtek diff drop, oem elocker, ARB RD90, 4.88's, 315/75/16 MT/R's on FZJ-80's, Trail Gear sliders, ARB Prado Bar, 1.5" 4Crawler BL, Tundra Brakes, wabfab disco's, IPF's...satoshi'd deckplated & ISR'd. SOLD!!! new ride: 1997 FZJ80. ome/arb/bfg/etc. when clinton lied..nobody died

01-20-2006, 07:58 PM	#15 (permalink)
ravencr Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Severance, CO Posts: 4,728	Looks nice man! Chris

01-21-2006, 02:58 PM	#16 (permalink)
Blizzard Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Barcelona (Spain) Posts: 912	I think the bumper is bolted directly to the frame, no brackets on it, if you name bracket a piece bolted to the frame and where the bumper is bolted to. Yes, we're fabbing a rear one also, will begin next week with the cardboard templates... d0ubledown, I think its a good way to imagine how will the bumper look like or what pieces of metal do you need to fab it up. I'm still trying to decide if adding a hoop in the center (Simillar to an ARB Sahara Bar) or leave if T17-like... A hoop will protect a bit more the grill, and maybe it's easier to put a pair of lights in it, but a levelled bumper will be nice for attaching a hi-lift... I think I'll mount it without, then I can imagine or simulate the hoop and see how it performs. David __________________ '94 Toyota 4Runner 3.0 Turbo Diesel Intercooler Auto – Trail-Gear 4'' SAS front, Trail-Gear 5'' rear leaves swap, 35's, FR&RR E-Lockers and too many things more to write...

01-22-2006, 06:06 PM	#19 (permalink)
dragr1 Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Auburn, AL Posts: 3,627	Looks good! I look forward to seeing the pics of the rear bumper. Will it include a tire carrier? __________________ 1985 4Runner Dual e-lockers, dual cases, yada yada 1996 4runner, lifted, 2 lockers, 315 KM2's, IFS and more '00 Suburban 2500 4x4 '07 Tacoma Double Cab 4wd TRD '02 Lexus IS300 1991 Tiffin Allegro 31' Class A

01-24-2006, 07:30 PM	#23 (permalink)
HOJU Contributing Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: UTAH Posts: 1,278	any updates? __________________ Allen- "You'll have to speak up, I'm wearing a towel..." Return With Honor

01-22-2006, 10:31 AM	#18 (permalink)
Blizzard Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Barcelona (Spain) Posts: 912	Exocage? Too difficult to do legal here and a bit overkill for me... David __________________ '94 Toyota 4Runner 3.0 Turbo Diesel Intercooler Auto – Trail-Gear 4'' SAS front, Trail-Gear 5'' rear leaves swap, 35's, FR&RR E-Lockers and too many things more to write...

01-22-2006, 10:41 PM	#20 (permalink)
Blizzard Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Barcelona (Spain) Posts: 912	Nope... You're used to have big places to park, here space to park isn't very big in the towns and cities... Anyways I think the rear tire carrier will be doable, but in my case, I won't install it at the moment, also, it's easier to do legal a bumper without tire carrier. David __________________ '94 Toyota 4Runner 3.0 Turbo Diesel Intercooler Auto – Trail-Gear 4'' SAS front, Trail-Gear 5'' rear leaves swap, 35's, FR&RR E-Lockers and too many things more to write...

01-23-2006, 12:13 PM	#21 (permalink)
99_Runner Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Westminster, CO Posts: 1,115	Can't wait for more pics. __________________ Drew 99 4Runner SR5, auto, 3.4 V6, factory rear locker, 265/75 Yokohama Geolander AT+II Stock for now, but hopefully not for long.

01-24-2006, 04:32 PM	#22 (permalink)
6lug Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Sevierville, TN Posts: 292	what thickness metal are you using for this? __________________ 1993 4Runner, V6, auto, 4.56's, custom rear bumper/tire carrier, Marlin's sliders, All Pro's rear spacers, Warn manual hubs, Surco rack (slightly customized), lights, on 31's, Lockright out back, Safari Snorkel. Now...1998 Jeep Cherokee, 4.0, AW4, 231, HPD30, C8.25, Skyjacker 4", 31" BFG ATs, custom frnt bumper/winch

01-25-2006, 05:00 AM	#24 (permalink)
Blizzard Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Barcelona (Spain) Posts: 912	Not yet... Metal is between 3mm (0.1181'') the cosmetic parts and 8mm (0.315'') the winch cradle. I don't know exactly how is the project now, I think the shop is plasmaing the metal. David __________________ '94 Toyota 4Runner 3.0 Turbo Diesel Intercooler Auto – Trail-Gear 4'' SAS front, Trail-Gear 5'' rear leaves swap, 35's, FR&RR E-Lockers and too many things more to write...

02-02-2006, 03:16 PM	#25 (permalink)
garrett1478 Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 0	any updates? :bounce2:

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