THE 1 MILLIONTH SAS (on my 92 runner) - Page 5

joebruva25 · 01-24-2006, 09:40 AM

The problem is that this is on a 92' 4-runner and it is a coil spring setup so I don't have a stock hanger to measure from (which every body has written that you measure 8-1/2"-9" from stock location if you have a leaf spring setup already) so I guess I could go 3-1/2"(7"/2=3-1/2") farther forward than your measurement cause my springs are 7" longer than yours, the reason i'm asking all these questions is cause i want to measure 4 times and weld once so i don't dog walk like you are talking about and end up having to cut off the hangers.Thanks again for the reply

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4rnr · 01-24-2006, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by joebruva25

The problem is that this is on a 92' 4-runner and it is a coil spring setup so I don't have a stock hanger to measure from (which every body has written that you measure 8-1/2"-9" from stock location if you have a leaf spring setup already) so I guess I could go 3-1/2"(7"/2=3-1/2") farther forward than your measurement cause my springs are 7" longer than yours, the reason i'm asking all these questions is cause i want to measure 4 times and weld once so i don't dog walk like you are talking about and end up having to cut off the hangers.Thanks again for the reply

Oh I thought you were doing to the truck in your avatar. I would position the axle where you want it and tack up one hanger. Then measure the distance from the front of the rear hanger to the front of the front hanger and use that measurement to locate the other rear hanger, that way not only will they be he same but it will be square witht the front hanger, and your truck should then be square.

4rnr · 01-24-2006, 03:29 PM

Iam bassically waiting on parts, calipers, union tee, 3rd members, d-shafts, etc.. I also ordered a set of 36x12.5r15 tsl sx's, today

Ive been talking to dave at marlin about the kit and he is sending me some parts to play with for a rear bumpstop system and an upper shock mount set up for the 2nd gen runners, since their kit doesnt have one. So basically now im a R&D vehicle for Marlin

Im going to do some work to the parts that I get and put it all togeather and see how it works. Ill keep you guys and marlin posted on how that all goes. and maybe youll see my idea on the sas kit

Also I started cutting body away in the quarter panels because my axle was a little to far back even after I moved it up a hole on the perch. Plus Im going to be running the 36's and Im going to be setting up the rear bump stops so I can tuck way up under the body. I think Im going to go with High angle driveline for the d-shafts bc its not expensive and they know what they are doing on a toyota. But they said that I will not be able to drive above 5mph without the front shaft vibrating!?! I heard guys could pull it off on auto v6's with a single case.

Napoleon047 · 01-24-2006, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by 4rnr

But they said that I will not be able to drive above 5mph without the front shaft vibrating!?! I heard guys could pull it off on auto v6's with a single case.

sounds like they are just covering their ass, maybe. are you running a HP front third?

i have a single t-case and low pinion front. i can hit 45 w/o vibes with my square front d-shaft

4rnr · 01-24-2006, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Napoleon047

sounds like they are just covering their ass, maybe. are you running a HP front third?

i have a single t-case and low pinion front. i can hit 45 w/o vibes with my square front d-shaft

Thats what i thought, they may be covering their ass. Jessie seems to now a lot, which I know the owner of high angle DL would, escpecially about toyotas, and their prices are cheaper than buying the spline kits and having them made by joe schmo here in the anti offroad capital of the country, chicago.

Are you running a manual?

Hey who knows how many grams of shot/ball bearing/bb's I need to put in a 72lb 36" tsl.

4rnr · 01-25-2006, 11:42 AM

WOW I got totally screwed by the guy with my 3rd, he had it for 3 mo. and dint do anything but take it apart. and I had to threaten him with the cops to get him to even let me COME TO PICK IT UP AT HIS CONVIENIECE!!!!

So basically now I need these 3rds set up and all the BS shops in chicago want $400/diff for setup!!, does anyone know of someone around here or does anyone who what they are doing want to do it, I just dont have the tools or time.

yotaman · 01-25-2006, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 4rnr

WOW I got totally screwed by the guy with my 3rd, he had it for 3 mo. and dint do anything but take it apart. and I had to threaten him with the cops to get him to even let me COME TO PICK IT UP AT HIS CONVIENIECE!!!!

So basically now I need these 3rds set up and all the BS shops in chicago want $400/diff for setup!!, does anyone know of someone around here or does anyone who what they are doing want to do it, I just dont have the tools or time.

Mail your 3rds to a professioanl "ZUK " (gearinstalls.com). He does nothing but Toyota 3rds. He knows how to make them strong as hell.

I just shipped him both of my e-locking 3rds today for him to install cryo'd 5.29's. He charges $200.00 to intall gears. It cost me $76.00 to ship both of them FedEx ground.

Tell him Greg Bennett set you.

4rnr · 01-26-2006, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by yotaman

Mail your 3rds to a professioanl "ZUK " (gearinstalls.com). He does nothing but Toyota 3rds. He knows how to make them strong as hell.

I just shipped him both of my e-locking 3rds today for him to install cryo'd 5.29's. He charges $200.00 to intall gears. It cost me $76.00 to ship both of them FedEx ground.

Tell him Greg Bennett set you.

I gave him a ring he says hi to you. Great guy seems to know his . It looks like our 3rds will meet and share some bench time. Just tell your cryoed, trd e-locked, v6 3rds not to pick on my little 20 yr old 4cyl, non cryoed, lunch box locked, 3rds

AznSky · 01-26-2006, 02:11 PM

also if you want another place to work with, try www.jcroffroad.com They're located in Kalamazoo, MI which is about a 3 hr drive from Chicago I'd say.

I got my gears setup by them, their friends of mine and ex-club members.

yotaman · 01-26-2006, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 4rnr

I gave him a ring he says hi to you. Great guy seems to know his . It looks like our 3rds will meet and share some bench time. Just tell your cryoed, trd e-locked, v6 3rds not to pick on my little 20 yr old 4cyl, non cryoed, lunch box locked, 3rds

Yea he’s a great guy. He’s really been good about answering questions I've had.

I’ll be sure to tell my 3rds to not pick on yours to much

.

4rnr · 01-27-2006, 07:29 PM

Ok update, im basically done but im now just waiting for parts, I mailed out my 3rds to ZUK in az. I ordered driveshafts from jessie at high angle drivline (great guy) waiting for 2 calipers, 36" tsl sx's, and the parts from marlin to try and make the bumpstops and upper shock mounts for the rear end.

Im getting antsy, I spent every night from 5pm-2am in the garage for 3 weeks. Now Ive got nothing to do. I think I might push the thing out of the garage and reorganize the garage, if I do that then Ill flex her out and get some poser pics for ya'll.

4rnr · 01-28-2006, 10:27 AM

DAAAMMMMNNNN I cant move the truck with out a rear 3rd!?!?! It looks like it could wreck the seals, bc the 3rd holds the shafts in place. IM PISSED.

yotaman · 01-31-2006, 11:05 PM

If you can, post a picture of what you did with the panhard braket mount. Did you cut it off and plate it or just cut it off?

PAhydrohead · 02-01-2006, 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by 4rnr

Im getting antsy, I spent every night from 5pm-2am in the garage for 3 weeks. Now Ive got nothing to do...

Ahhhh the good old days, working on the truck whenever you want. Get married and have some kids, then you'll have something to do!

4rnr · 02-01-2006, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by PAhydrohead

Ahhhh the good old days, working on the truck whenever you want. Get married and have some kids, then you'll have something to do!

My fiance helps when shes not working on her fj62. If I ever stoped wheeling or wrenching, she would call me a

As for the panhard I just hacked it off w/ the plasma and left it.

4rnr · 02-01-2006, 08:27 PM

I decided to mount my shocks like this, im not sure why some people mount like this.. / \.....

Heres a teaser on all 4's, its all I have that looks decient,

Oh btw the springs havent even begun to droop, in fact the shackles still have about a -30* angle on them, I figure it should droop WAAAAAAAAY more...

Blizzard · 02-02-2006, 07:03 AM

Your truck and work are nice! I want a SAS or I want to win the lottery or better both...

Can't wait to see it with the new tires and completed

David

PAhydrohead · 02-02-2006, 10:11 AM

Hey 4rnr, did you wax your truck for that photo op??

She looks mighty shiny. Is that an engine hoist I see flexing the front end?

rockota · 02-02-2006, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by 4rnr

I decided to mount my shocks like this, im not sure why some people mount like this.. / \.....

So that the shock eyes are perpendicular to the axle - this allows articulation w/o binding the shock eye. They way you have them mounted, there may be binding. Likely not a big deal...

4rnr · 02-03-2006, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by rockota

So that the shock eyes are perpendicular to the axle - this allows articulation w/o binding the shock eye. They way you have them mounted, there may be binding. Likely not a big deal...

I check to see if the way I have it will bind and the bushings have enough flex in them that I can put about a 30* angle on them using little more force than the wieght of the shock, so I should be ok. Plus in order to mount the shocks like this / \ they would have cris-crossed ( X ) bc the shock is long and the truck is sitting pretty low, as you can see from the shackle angle. I did some research and found that alot of guys started like this / \ and switched to this l l bc of stability, abd after thinking about it it makes perfect sence bc the truck is able to pivot or teeter on the narrow couple inch base provided by the upper shock mounts when they are like this / \, but its all hypathetical and I will see how it does, I could be wrong.

No I didnt wax it but it does look strangly clean now that you mention it, escpecially since it is COVERED in metal dust from all of the grinding and cutting.

4rnr · 02-04-2006, 03:37 PM

joebruva25 · 02-05-2006, 08:23 AM

Hey 4rnr what size shocks did you use? the bilstein 5125 12" stroke? and you heard that it is better to mount the shocks like this l l instead of /\ cause I was considering mounting like /\ but if you say you've researched it and people are changing back to OEM style of mounting i wont even bother trying the /\ style.

4rnr · 02-05-2006, 10:31 AM

Well like I said / \ wasnt and option bc the shock was too long (5125 12'' I think) I dont have any first hand experiences in comparison though. It makes sence to me. The only thing I would change from the design I have (and it might not be necesarry) is to have the monts perpendicular to the axle, but I had the other mounts already so....

I can post pics if you want.

4rnr · 02-05-2006, 11:30 AM

Last night was fun the roads weres so icy that my fiance lost controll of her fj62 (62girl)and smashed the front and rear of it, then about 20 min later I left the house to go get some chinese, and came up over a hill and saw an 8 car pile up at the bottom of the hill and cars flying everywhere. I felt left out so I dicided to hit the brakes and join the ice-cepades. I slid about 200 ft and finally managed to get the 88 runner off the road then I slid about 100 ft before I managed to get it to hit a nice big bush, going 15mph. However, the most important thing is I got the chinese food.

Blizzard · 02-06-2006, 06:15 AM

Ahahaha I'm glad you were able to eat something and sorry about your girl's FJ.

David

01-24-2006, 03:29 PM	#103 (permalink)
4rnr Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Plainfield, IL Posts: 1,469	Iam bassically waiting on parts, calipers, union tee, 3rd members, d-shafts, etc.. I also ordered a set of 36x12.5r15 tsl sx's, today Ive been talking to dave at marlin about the kit and he is sending me some parts to play with for a rear bumpstop system and an upper shock mount set up for the 2nd gen runners, since their kit doesnt have one. So basically now im a R&D vehicle for Marlin Im going to do some work to the parts that I get and put it all togeather and see how it works. Ill keep you guys and marlin posted on how that all goes. and maybe youll see my idea on the sas kit Also I started cutting body away in the quarter panels because my axle was a little to far back even after I moved it up a hole on the perch. Plus Im going to be running the 36's and Im going to be setting up the rear bump stops so I can tuck way up under the body. I think Im going to go with High angle driveline for the d-shafts bc its not expensive and they know what they are doing on a toyota. But they said that I will not be able to drive above 5mph without the front shaft vibrating!?! I heard guys could pull it off on auto v6's with a single case. __________________ poop 1988 stock 4runner, v6, 5spd, soft top. 1990 fj62 stock and mint! 1992 4runner, 3.4, auto, SAS'ed, Marlin USA springs (4"/5"), 37" PBR's, 30 spline Longfields, Hydro assist, dual inchworms (5:1, twin stick, 23 spline, chromo output, 10* clock) 5.29's, lockrite's, custom exo, High angle drivelines drive shafts, 108" wheelbase, Warn hs9500i, Mcintosh/Dynaudio a/v system. The build up...http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.php?t=74915

01-25-2006, 11:42 AM	#106 (permalink)
4rnr Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Plainfield, IL Posts: 1,469	WOW I got totally screwed by the guy with my 3rd, he had it for 3 mo. and dint do anything but take it apart. and I had to threaten him with the cops to get him to even let me COME TO PICK IT UP AT HIS CONVIENIECE!!!! So basically now I need these 3rds set up and all the BS shops in chicago want $400/diff for setup!!, does anyone know of someone around here or does anyone who what they are doing want to do it, I just dont have the tools or time. __________________ poop 1988 stock 4runner, v6, 5spd, soft top. 1990 fj62 stock and mint! 1992 4runner, 3.4, auto, SAS'ed, Marlin USA springs (4"/5"), 37" PBR's, 30 spline Longfields, Hydro assist, dual inchworms (5:1, twin stick, 23 spline, chromo output, 10* clock) 5.29's, lockrite's, custom exo, High angle drivelines drive shafts, 108" wheelbase, Warn hs9500i, Mcintosh/Dynaudio a/v system. The build up...http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.php?t=74915

01-26-2006, 02:11 PM	#109 (permalink)
AznSky Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 2,796	also if you want another place to work with, try www.jcroffroad.com They're located in Kalamazoo, MI which is about a 3 hr drive from Chicago I'd say. I got my gears setup by them, their friends of mine and ex-club members. __________________ Rob

01-27-2006, 07:29 PM	#111 (permalink)
4rnr Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Plainfield, IL Posts: 1,469	Ok update, im basically done but im now just waiting for parts, I mailed out my 3rds to ZUK in az. I ordered driveshafts from jessie at high angle drivline (great guy) waiting for 2 calipers, 36" tsl sx's, and the parts from marlin to try and make the bumpstops and upper shock mounts for the rear end. Im getting antsy, I spent every night from 5pm-2am in the garage for 3 weeks. Now Ive got nothing to do. I think I might push the thing out of the garage and reorganize the garage, if I do that then Ill flex her out and get some poser pics for ya'll. __________________ poop 1988 stock 4runner, v6, 5spd, soft top. 1990 fj62 stock and mint! 1992 4runner, 3.4, auto, SAS'ed, Marlin USA springs (4"/5"), 37" PBR's, 30 spline Longfields, Hydro assist, dual inchworms (5:1, twin stick, 23 spline, chromo output, 10* clock) 5.29's, lockrite's, custom exo, High angle drivelines drive shafts, 108" wheelbase, Warn hs9500i, Mcintosh/Dynaudio a/v system. The build up...http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.php?t=74915

01-28-2006, 10:27 AM	#112 (permalink)
4rnr Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Plainfield, IL Posts: 1,469	DAAAMMMMNNNN I cant move the truck with out a rear 3rd!?!?! It looks like it could wreck the seals, bc the 3rd holds the shafts in place. IM PISSED. __________________ poop 1988 stock 4runner, v6, 5spd, soft top. 1990 fj62 stock and mint! 1992 4runner, 3.4, auto, SAS'ed, Marlin USA springs (4"/5"), 37" PBR's, 30 spline Longfields, Hydro assist, dual inchworms (5:1, twin stick, 23 spline, chromo output, 10* clock) 5.29's, lockrite's, custom exo, High angle drivelines drive shafts, 108" wheelbase, Warn hs9500i, Mcintosh/Dynaudio a/v system. The build up...http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.php?t=74915

01-31-2006, 11:05 PM	#113 (permalink)
yotaman Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Cumming, GA Posts: 1,189	If you can, post a picture of what you did with the panhard braket mount. Did you cut it off and plate it or just cut it off? __________________ Greg

02-01-2006, 08:27 PM	#116 (permalink)
4rnr Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Plainfield, IL Posts: 1,469	I decided to mount my shocks like this, im not sure why some people mount like this.. / \..... Heres a teaser on all 4's, its all I have that looks decient, Oh btw the springs havent even begun to droop, in fact the shackles still have about a -30* angle on them, I figure it should droop WAAAAAAAAY more... __________________ poop 1988 stock 4runner, v6, 5spd, soft top. 1990 fj62 stock and mint! 1992 4runner, 3.4, auto, SAS'ed, Marlin USA springs (4"/5"), 37" PBR's, 30 spline Longfields, Hydro assist, dual inchworms (5:1, twin stick, 23 spline, chromo output, 10* clock) 5.29's, lockrite's, custom exo, High angle drivelines drive shafts, 108" wheelbase, Warn hs9500i, Mcintosh/Dynaudio a/v system. The build up...http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.php?t=74915

02-02-2006, 07:03 AM	#117 (permalink)
Blizzard Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Barcelona (Spain) Posts: 912	Your truck and work are nice! I want a SAS or I want to win the lottery or better both... Can't wait to see it with the new tires and completed David __________________ '94 Toyota 4Runner 3.0 Turbo Diesel Intercooler Auto – Trail-Gear 4'' SAS front, Trail-Gear 5'' rear leaves swap, 35's, FR&RR E-Lockers and too many things more to write...

02-02-2006, 10:11 AM	#118 (permalink)
PAhydrohead Contributing Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 498	Hey 4rnr, did you wax your truck for that photo op?? She looks mighty shiny. Is that an engine hoist I see flexing the front end?

02-04-2006, 03:37 PM	#121 (permalink)
4rnr Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Plainfield, IL Posts: 1,469	__________________ poop 1988 stock 4runner, v6, 5spd, soft top. 1990 fj62 stock and mint! 1992 4runner, 3.4, auto, SAS'ed, Marlin USA springs (4"/5"), 37" PBR's, 30 spline Longfields, Hydro assist, dual inchworms (5:1, twin stick, 23 spline, chromo output, 10* clock) 5.29's, lockrite's, custom exo, High angle drivelines drive shafts, 108" wheelbase, Warn hs9500i, Mcintosh/Dynaudio a/v system. The build up...http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.php?t=74915

02-05-2006, 08:23 AM	#122 (permalink)
joebruva25 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Cali Posts: 13	Hey 4rnr what size shocks did you use? the bilstein 5125 12" stroke? and you heard that it is better to mount the shocks like this l l instead of /\ cause I was considering mounting like /\ but if you say you've researched it and people are changing back to OEM style of mounting i wont even bother trying the /\ style.

02-05-2006, 10:31 AM	#123 (permalink)
4rnr Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Plainfield, IL Posts: 1,469	Well like I said / \ wasnt and option bc the shock was too long (5125 12'' I think) I dont have any first hand experiences in comparison though. It makes sence to me. The only thing I would change from the design I have (and it might not be necesarry) is to have the monts perpendicular to the axle, but I had the other mounts already so.... I can post pics if you want. __________________ poop 1988 stock 4runner, v6, 5spd, soft top. 1990 fj62 stock and mint! 1992 4runner, 3.4, auto, SAS'ed, Marlin USA springs (4"/5"), 37" PBR's, 30 spline Longfields, Hydro assist, dual inchworms (5:1, twin stick, 23 spline, chromo output, 10* clock) 5.29's, lockrite's, custom exo, High angle drivelines drive shafts, 108" wheelbase, Warn hs9500i, Mcintosh/Dynaudio a/v system. The build up...http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.php?t=74915

02-05-2006, 11:30 AM	#124 (permalink)
4rnr Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Plainfield, IL Posts: 1,469	Last night was fun the roads weres so icy that my fiance lost controll of her fj62 (62girl)and smashed the front and rear of it, then about 20 min later I left the house to go get some chinese, and came up over a hill and saw an 8 car pile up at the bottom of the hill and cars flying everywhere. I felt left out so I dicided to hit the brakes and join the ice-cepades. I slid about 200 ft and finally managed to get the 88 runner off the road then I slid about 100 ft before I managed to get it to hit a nice big bush, going 15mph. However, the most important thing is I got the chinese food. __________________ poop 1988 stock 4runner, v6, 5spd, soft top. 1990 fj62 stock and mint! 1992 4runner, 3.4, auto, SAS'ed, Marlin USA springs (4"/5"), 37" PBR's, 30 spline Longfields, Hydro assist, dual inchworms (5:1, twin stick, 23 spline, chromo output, 10* clock) 5.29's, lockrite's, custom exo, High angle drivelines drive shafts, 108" wheelbase, Warn hs9500i, Mcintosh/Dynaudio a/v system. The build up...http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.php?t=74915

02-06-2006, 06:15 AM	#125 (permalink)
Blizzard Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Barcelona (Spain) Posts: 912	Ahahaha I'm glad you were able to eat something and sorry about your girl's FJ. David __________________ '94 Toyota 4Runner 3.0 Turbo Diesel Intercooler Auto – Trail-Gear 4'' SAS front, Trail-Gear 5'' rear leaves swap, 35's, FR&RR E-Lockers and too many things more to write...

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