THE 1 MILLIONTH SAS (on my 92 runner) - Page 2

**Tofer** · 12-28-2005, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by 4rnr

If I dont sas Ill just waste money on chili cheese dogs and beer then Ill be poor, fat, and STILL on ifs.

you do a sas on my runner and i will buy you all the beer and chili cheese dogs you can eat while doing it.

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joez · 12-28-2005, 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4rnr

BTW, I now have some 1.5in AP coils laying around...

I missed this before, what do you want for the coils?

99_Runner · 12-29-2005, 04:12 AM

Very nice looking rig. It'll look awesome with the SAS and 36's.

WSU4runner · 12-30-2005, 03:48 PM

Looks like you are doing exactly what I plan on doing in the future. I will be waiting to see how it turns out. Good luck with the rest of the build!

4rnr · 12-30-2005, 07:12 PM

Ok I got back in the garage today, and between changing the brakes on a KIA I got some work done, not much but its going pretty smooth. The next thing im waiting for is the plasma cutter, then I can begin cutting everything.

I was wondering how you guys move the steering box forward, mine has no room to be moved, I can maybe go 1/4" before I hit the body mount. So what am I missing here?

Napoleon047 · 12-30-2005, 09:02 PM

you usually have to cut a hole in the radiator core support. the more bodylift you have the less you have to cut.

4rnr · 12-30-2005, 10:45 PM

I just got done researching this. I think im just going to try to move it as far forward as possible (with no cutting) and rotate it as far forward as possible. I should be able to get it all to fit then.

**waskillywabbit** · 12-31-2005, 06:48 AM

I'm not sure what the differences for different gens, but I didn't have to move/cut anything out of the way, but I have an 85.

Here's a pic:

Napoleon047 · 12-31-2005, 10:30 AM

he wants to move the box forward from that wabbit. imagine that front bolt all the way up to the frame body mount. yes, that is what he wants to do.

4rnr · 12-31-2005, 10:56 AM

Im going to call Sky to see if any of there pitmans will alow me to leave the box where it is. Or aleast not make me move to far.

**waskillywabbit** · 12-31-2005, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Napoleon047

he wants to move the box forward from that wabbit. imagine that front bolt all the way up to the frame body mount. yes, that is what he wants to do.

Not questioning his right to do it...but what is the point of moving it THAT far forward? Just curious.

Napoleon047 · 12-31-2005, 03:43 PM

then you can move the axle THAT far forward as well.

greater approach angle and keeps the tire out of the firewall, also helps with d-line angle, and helps f/r weight distribution a tad.

**waskillywabbit** · 12-31-2005, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Napoleon047

then you can move the axle THAT far forward as well.

greater approach angle and keeps the tire out of the firewall, also helps with d-line angle, and helps f/r weight distribution a tad.

Well, I should have said something, my apologies, I felt that was the reason but that there was something more than just moving the axle forward. Considering how easy it was IMO to trim the firewall, I would be interested to see how much trouble it is to trim the other direction.

4rnr · 01-02-2006, 01:37 PM

Im getting off to a slow start. Im having trouble getting ahold of the guy who im buying the plasma cutter off of then I have to wire 220 out to the garage. Before I buy the wire I need to know what the amperage pull is. Its capable ot cutting 5/16" plate (i think) I also am having trouble getting my 3rd back from the guy who is setting up my gears, so I cant begin to rebuild the front axles.

hopefully once I get the cutter this job will speed up. But its going very smoothly so i cant complain Ill take slow and smooth.

yotaman · 01-02-2006, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 4rnr

Im going to call Sky to see if any of there pitmans will alow me to leave the box where it is. Or aleast not make me move to far.

Try Trail-Gear.com. I have there High-Steer kit and the pitman arm is a little different that others, plus it's only $369.00 with free UPS shipping.

joez · 01-02-2006, 10:43 PM

Trail gears pitman arm is the same drop as factory, so its not going to solve his problem.

yotaman · 01-02-2006, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by joez

Trail gears pitman arm is the same drop as factory, so its not going to solve his problem.

There new pitman arm brings it closer to the frame. I got a call from them today telling me this as they thought they had shipped me the wrong one. I may be wrong but it’s worth it to call and ask.

4rnr · 01-03-2006, 02:04 PM

yea it looks like im getting my plasma cutter and maybe my 3rd on saturday so now this "turtle speed" build will speed up. Or ill take weeks figuring out how to set up and use the plasma cutter, oh well both will be fun. because bottom line Ive got a plasma cutter that was only used once and almost new (for $200!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE

seaflea · 01-03-2006, 03:32 PM

Score! Great find. good luck with the SAS. Cant wait for the pics to star showing up.

4rnr · 01-07-2006, 08:14 PM

Ahhh finally some progress. I've got a toy (plasma cutter) that I never thought Id have but for $200 and a spare kit of consumables, I couldnt pass it up...

This thing is great it cuts like crazy. which is good bc it took me all day, 6 cutoff wheels, and 2 grinding wheels just to get the all the bracketry off of the rear axle. This takes a long time with no help (although tonight my fiance 62girl (jenn) helped a lot) I put my swampers on the axle so I could have a sort of portable jackstand setup, it worked great until I had to move the 400lb beast by myself. well not that I got much done tonight but I made some head way and actually got some cool pics of grinding in the garage

My woman lending a hand

I just really like this pic with my jenns 62, my 88 runner and the 92 in the garage

Although this isnt a rare occurance, I often have a fj80, an fj62, an fj60, my 88runner, the neighbors 94 runner, my 92 runner, my other buddies 92 runner, all in and out regularly.

Well tomarrow I hope to remove the front end.

BTW I talked to marlin and they mentioned that the steering box doenst need to be moved, they said it will work and that is how they set up all their trucks.

4rnr · 01-10-2006, 10:50 PM

Hey, all of you who have done leaf conversions on your runners, what did you do with the upper arm bracket that is bolted to the gas tank, i dont want to take my plasma to it. It doesnt seem to be in the way and it is part of the bracket for the gas tank, just curious. Also did you guys have to move the gas tank, (I doubt it bc the leafed toys have the same tank) Things are moving along. Its awesome but it doesnt make for good right ups bc its the same old sas, oh well ill post pics tomarrow.

4rnr · 01-11-2006, 04:13 PM

joebruva25 · 01-11-2006, 06:34 PM

Thats cool your doing the SAS conversion did you buy the kit or fab it your self? and what did the solid front axle cost? I want to do this mod really bad but can't find an axle, also what gearing are you using?

4rnr · 01-11-2006, 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joebruva25

Thats cool your doing the SAS conversion did you buy the kit or fab it your self? and what did the solid front axle cost? I want to do this mod really bad but can't find an axle, also what gearing are you using?

I bought the kits from Marlin, Ive got about $1300 into the front axle

$150-axle
$140-gears (5.29)
$75-gear setup kit
$160-Profields
$225-knuckle and bearing kits
$230-locker
$100-wheel spacers
$80-rotors
$50-pads
$70-(nonfactory 4.88)3rd member
$20-diff armor
total=about $1300

I chose 5,29's bc with a 3.0 auto, geared 4.88 with 35" AT's on alloys I needed more rpms. So with 36" swampers, on steelies, I will definatly need the 5.29s.

Axles are really easy to find, check the classifieds on pirate4x4 and here.

AJP324 · 01-11-2006, 08:03 PM

Swaping my truck was the best thing I ever did. You won't regret it.

12-29-2005, 04:12 AM	#28 (permalink)
99_Runner Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Westminster, CO Posts: 1,115	Very nice looking rig. It'll look awesome with the SAS and 36's. __________________ Drew 99 4Runner SR5, auto, 3.4 V6, factory rear locker, 265/75 Yokohama Geolander AT+II Stock for now, but hopefully not for long.

12-30-2005, 03:48 PM	#29 (permalink)
WSU4runner Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Mill Creek, WA Posts: 458	Looks like you are doing exactly what I plan on doing in the future. I will be waiting to see how it turns out. Good luck with the rest of the build! __________________ ~93 4Runner~ 33" MT/R's, fj80's in rear, and ball joint spacers in the front

12-30-2005, 07:12 PM	#30 (permalink)
4rnr Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Plainfield, IL Posts: 1,469	Ok I got back in the garage today, and between changing the brakes on a KIA I got some work done, not much but its going pretty smooth. The next thing im waiting for is the plasma cutter, then I can begin cutting everything. I was wondering how you guys move the steering box forward, mine has no room to be moved, I can maybe go 1/4" before I hit the body mount. So what am I missing here? __________________ poop 1988 stock 4runner, v6, 5spd, soft top. 1990 fj62 stock and mint! 1992 4runner, 3.4, auto, SAS'ed, Marlin USA springs (4"/5"), 37" PBR's, 30 spline Longfields, Hydro assist, dual inchworms (5:1, twin stick, 23 spline, chromo output, 10* clock) 5.29's, lockrite's, custom exo, High angle drivelines drive shafts, 108" wheelbase, Warn hs9500i, Mcintosh/Dynaudio a/v system. The build up...http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.php?t=74915

12-30-2005, 09:02 PM	#31 (permalink)
Napoleon047 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Columbia, MO Posts: 995	you usually have to cut a hole in the radiator core support. the more bodylift you have the less you have to cut. __________________ -Peter 86 4runner SAS - Trail Rig 94 FZJ80 - DD the dirt cheap SAS Marko Customs

12-30-2005, 10:45 PM	#32 (permalink)
4rnr Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Plainfield, IL Posts: 1,469	I just got done researching this. I think im just going to try to move it as far forward as possible (with no cutting) and rotate it as far forward as possible. I should be able to get it all to fit then. __________________ poop 1988 stock 4runner, v6, 5spd, soft top. 1990 fj62 stock and mint! 1992 4runner, 3.4, auto, SAS'ed, Marlin USA springs (4"/5"), 37" PBR's, 30 spline Longfields, Hydro assist, dual inchworms (5:1, twin stick, 23 spline, chromo output, 10* clock) 5.29's, lockrite's, custom exo, High angle drivelines drive shafts, 108" wheelbase, Warn hs9500i, Mcintosh/Dynaudio a/v system. The build up...http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.php?t=74915

12-31-2005, 06:48 AM	#33 (permalink)
waskillywabbit Super Moderator-Sponsoring Member Staff Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Tuscaloosa, AL Posts: 14,561	I'm not sure what the differences for different gens, but I didn't have to move/cut anything out of the way, but I have an 85. Here's a pic: __________________ WabFab Off-Road, LLC MySpace Twitter Facebook 7th Annual South East 4Runner Jamboree, 2010 The toughest part of a Jeep is the chick driving it. WabFab Off-Road 4th Anniversary Sale

12-31-2005, 10:30 AM	#34 (permalink)
Napoleon047 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Columbia, MO Posts: 995	he wants to move the box forward from that wabbit. imagine that front bolt all the way up to the frame body mount. yes, that is what he wants to do. __________________ -Peter 86 4runner SAS - Trail Rig 94 FZJ80 - DD the dirt cheap SAS Marko Customs

12-31-2005, 10:56 AM	#35 (permalink)
4rnr Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Plainfield, IL Posts: 1,469	Im going to call Sky to see if any of there pitmans will alow me to leave the box where it is. Or aleast not make me move to far. __________________ poop 1988 stock 4runner, v6, 5spd, soft top. 1990 fj62 stock and mint! 1992 4runner, 3.4, auto, SAS'ed, Marlin USA springs (4"/5"), 37" PBR's, 30 spline Longfields, Hydro assist, dual inchworms (5:1, twin stick, 23 spline, chromo output, 10* clock) 5.29's, lockrite's, custom exo, High angle drivelines drive shafts, 108" wheelbase, Warn hs9500i, Mcintosh/Dynaudio a/v system. The build up...http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.php?t=74915

12-31-2005, 03:43 PM	#37 (permalink)
Napoleon047 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Columbia, MO Posts: 995	then you can move the axle THAT far forward as well. greater approach angle and keeps the tire out of the firewall, also helps with d-line angle, and helps f/r weight distribution a tad. __________________ -Peter 86 4runner SAS - Trail Rig 94 FZJ80 - DD the dirt cheap SAS Marko Customs

01-02-2006, 01:37 PM	#39 (permalink)
4rnr Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Plainfield, IL Posts: 1,469	Im getting off to a slow start. Im having trouble getting ahold of the guy who im buying the plasma cutter off of then I have to wire 220 out to the garage. Before I buy the wire I need to know what the amperage pull is. Its capable ot cutting 5/16" plate (i think) I also am having trouble getting my 3rd back from the guy who is setting up my gears, so I cant begin to rebuild the front axles. hopefully once I get the cutter this job will speed up. But its going very smoothly so i cant complain Ill take slow and smooth. __________________ poop 1988 stock 4runner, v6, 5spd, soft top. 1990 fj62 stock and mint! 1992 4runner, 3.4, auto, SAS'ed, Marlin USA springs (4"/5"), 37" PBR's, 30 spline Longfields, Hydro assist, dual inchworms (5:1, twin stick, 23 spline, chromo output, 10* clock) 5.29's, lockrite's, custom exo, High angle drivelines drive shafts, 108" wheelbase, Warn hs9500i, Mcintosh/Dynaudio a/v system. The build up...http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.php?t=74915

01-02-2006, 10:43 PM	#41 (permalink)
joez Contributing Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Elwood, Il Posts: 1,253	Trail gears pitman arm is the same drop as factory, so its not going to solve his problem. __________________ -Joe Z Chicago 4x4 My Webshots 1985 Toyota 4Runner, 3" Trail Gear rear/ All-Pro front springs, 42x14 IROK's, Allied Rockathons, spool rear/detroit front, 30 spline longs, Dual cases w/4.7, Marlin High steer, lots of other stuff.. 1997 Dodge 2500 4x4, 12valve CTD, not stock.

01-03-2006, 02:04 PM	#43 (permalink)
4rnr Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Plainfield, IL Posts: 1,469	yea it looks like im getting my plasma cutter and maybe my 3rd on saturday so now this "turtle speed" build will speed up. Or ill take weeks figuring out how to set up and use the plasma cutter, oh well both will be fun. because bottom line Ive got a plasma cutter that was only used once and almost new (for $200!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE __________________ poop 1988 stock 4runner, v6, 5spd, soft top. 1990 fj62 stock and mint! 1992 4runner, 3.4, auto, SAS'ed, Marlin USA springs (4"/5"), 37" PBR's, 30 spline Longfields, Hydro assist, dual inchworms (5:1, twin stick, 23 spline, chromo output, 10* clock) 5.29's, lockrite's, custom exo, High angle drivelines drive shafts, 108" wheelbase, Warn hs9500i, Mcintosh/Dynaudio a/v system. The build up...http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.php?t=74915

01-03-2006, 03:32 PM	#44 (permalink)
seaflea Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: wilmington nc Posts: 1,602	Score! Great find. good luck with the SAS. Cant wait for the pics to star showing up. __________________ Will WabFab Off-Road, LLC Toyota 4x4 Parts and Custom Fabrication updated website with lots of new products 87 runner with every bolt on available

01-07-2006, 08:14 PM	#45 (permalink)
4rnr Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Plainfield, IL Posts: 1,469	Ahhh finally some progress. I've got a toy (plasma cutter) that I never thought Id have but for $200 and a spare kit of consumables, I couldnt pass it up... This thing is great it cuts like crazy. which is good bc it took me all day, 6 cutoff wheels, and 2 grinding wheels just to get the all the bracketry off of the rear axle. This takes a long time with no help (although tonight my fiance 62girl (jenn) helped a lot) I put my swampers on the axle so I could have a sort of portable jackstand setup, it worked great until I had to move the 400lb beast by myself. well not that I got much done tonight but I made some head way and actually got some cool pics of grinding in the garage My woman lending a hand I just really like this pic with my jenns 62, my 88 runner and the 92 in the garage Although this isnt a rare occurance, I often have a fj80, an fj62, an fj60, my 88runner, the neighbors 94 runner, my 92 runner, my other buddies 92 runner, all in and out regularly. Well tomarrow I hope to remove the front end. BTW I talked to marlin and they mentioned that the steering box doenst need to be moved, they said it will work and that is how they set up all their trucks. __________________ poop 1988 stock 4runner, v6, 5spd, soft top. 1990 fj62 stock and mint! 1992 4runner, 3.4, auto, SAS'ed, Marlin USA springs (4"/5"), 37" PBR's, 30 spline Longfields, Hydro assist, dual inchworms (5:1, twin stick, 23 spline, chromo output, 10* clock) 5.29's, lockrite's, custom exo, High angle drivelines drive shafts, 108" wheelbase, Warn hs9500i, Mcintosh/Dynaudio a/v system. The build up...http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.php?t=74915

01-10-2006, 10:50 PM	#46 (permalink)
4rnr Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Plainfield, IL Posts: 1,469	Hey, all of you who have done leaf conversions on your runners, what did you do with the upper arm bracket that is bolted to the gas tank, i dont want to take my plasma to it. It doesnt seem to be in the way and it is part of the bracket for the gas tank, just curious. Also did you guys have to move the gas tank, (I doubt it bc the leafed toys have the same tank) Things are moving along. Its awesome but it doesnt make for good right ups bc its the same old sas, oh well ill post pics tomarrow. __________________ poop 1988 stock 4runner, v6, 5spd, soft top. 1990 fj62 stock and mint! 1992 4runner, 3.4, auto, SAS'ed, Marlin USA springs (4"/5"), 37" PBR's, 30 spline Longfields, Hydro assist, dual inchworms (5:1, twin stick, 23 spline, chromo output, 10* clock) 5.29's, lockrite's, custom exo, High angle drivelines drive shafts, 108" wheelbase, Warn hs9500i, Mcintosh/Dynaudio a/v system. The build up...http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.php?t=74915

01-11-2006, 04:13 PM	#47 (permalink)
4rnr Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Plainfield, IL Posts: 1,469	__________________ poop 1988 stock 4runner, v6, 5spd, soft top. 1990 fj62 stock and mint! 1992 4runner, 3.4, auto, SAS'ed, Marlin USA springs (4"/5"), 37" PBR's, 30 spline Longfields, Hydro assist, dual inchworms (5:1, twin stick, 23 spline, chromo output, 10* clock) 5.29's, lockrite's, custom exo, High angle drivelines drive shafts, 108" wheelbase, Warn hs9500i, Mcintosh/Dynaudio a/v system. The build up...http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.php?t=74915

01-11-2006, 06:34 PM	#48 (permalink)
joebruva25 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Cali Posts: 13	Thats cool your doing the SAS conversion did you buy the kit or fab it your self? and what did the solid front axle cost? I want to do this mod really bad but can't find an axle, also what gearing are you using?

01-11-2006, 08:03 PM	#50 (permalink)
AJP324 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 2	Swaping my truck was the best thing I ever did. You won't regret it.

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