yellowspeedracer

has anyone seen an inclinometer gauge with a pickup silhouette? or is it possible to change the background on one with a SUV or jHeep image?

thanx in advance
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fooddude

here is a previous thread it doesnt have a truck but 4runner but it might help you out. https://www.yotatech.com/forums/show...5&pagenumber=2

toy283

I've seen the aftermarket ones with pickup silhouettes at many different 4wd shops.

yellowspeedracer

that's exactly what i was after. the original clinometer in that thread can be ordered with a truck graphic. thanx again

fooddude

no problem i already did the mod to mine with that 4runner pic and it looks real nice.

L8sho2003

you guys need a gadget to tell you when you roll over? just stick your hand out the window! How do you know the max operating angle without rolling it first? Just curious. This has been an ongoing joke with us over at toyotaoffroad.com.

yellowspeedracer

it's more of just a curiousity thing for me. im a newbie at wheeling and i feel like im going to tip easily. however, when i go look at pictures later it's obvious that im far from tipping over.

i've read 30 degrees is getting into a scetchy zone...?

4x4Lamm

I exceed 60 degrees up and down often. More than 30 degrees sideslope is asking for it. If for some reason your front or back stars to slide you are im trouble. If your rig is lifted with bigger tires it heas an even higher propensity to roll unless your tires are really really wide. More than anything, for $20 it is a nice little toy.

L8sho2003

Don't get me wrong, I understand the concept, I've been wheeling for over 20 years. My point is, unless you roll the vehicle, any other idea of where it might roll is strictly theoretical. If I'm in that situation I would rather pay attention to what I am doing instead of looking at the little truck on the dash. Even if you knew manufacturers specs for roll over in your vehicle, all would be null and void as soon as you modify anything. Yeah, I know they look kinda cool, but they are as useful as neon lighting. Not real wheeler's gear unless you drive a vehicle that you do regularly roll so you know the true numbers.

4x4Lamm

I don't know how and haven't done it but I would bet that a formula like the one the NHSI uses to calculate roll propensity could be uses to find even a modified vehicle's max stable angle. Also, if you know that you per say reached 30 degrees sideslope and did not roll from that point on if you were worried about your sideslope, you check the clinometer, if it is under 30 degrees, no worries mate I don't think that they are useless, after all, they are factory options on some HMMWVs

jx94148

In that case I better get two!

They were also factory options on mid 80s Tercel 4WD wagons. How is that for a ringing endorsment?

I think they are more so you can get on the internet and brag about how close you were to having it pegged. Unless you really know when you will go over it dosen't serve any other purpose.

4x4Lamm

I don't see why people think clinometers are the Devils spawn. Like I said, if you found yourself at a steep angle and it was 30 degrees, in the future if you were unsure and you had a clinometer and it was less then 30 degrees you cold sweat a little less. Also, carburated rigs are sometimes very suseptable to failure at high angles, how does the thought of no engine at the top of a 45 degree 300 foot muddy hill sound to you? And if you have ever took a trailor over rough terrain like I have you should know the maximum flex of the hitch. If it is 20 degrees and you start op a hill and it is more than 20 degrees, better find another way. There is a reason things like D9 Cats and HMMWVs have them. The Hummer is truely an engineering marvel, it is like the old Nissan tagline, "Everything You Need, Nothing You Don't". Obviously there is a need for them. As far as the Tracel wagons go, why not. I bet that many people who owned them initialy were new to 4WD and needed some guidance as to thier capabilitys. Most educated people will tell you that a vehicle is safe in 30 Degrees of attitude in any direction. Modifacations change this but when done properly will maintain near stock numbers. Besided, if somebody wants to spend $25 on a mod that is not useless why not be happy for them. Maybe $25 worth of NOZ and TYPE R stickers would be better? I guss I'm just not extreme enough for your tastes.

jx94148

I'm not trying to ruffle any feathers. I just don't think they are necessary.

4x4Lamm

Fair Enough

fooddude

its all your own opinion some of us have been wheeling for 20 years and now you limits somewhat in your head and some of us like me have only been driving and wheeling for a year and feel more comfortable with them. But heck no point of fighting about if.

Spectre

I knew a pilot who thought the same thing in an airplane

4x4Lamm

Yeah, what was his name, Kennady something. Ah what the heck, VFR IFR just fly by the seat of your pants and leave the landing light on so you can at least have a second or two to kiss your butt goodbye.:tomcat:

toysoldier

The inclinometer is a nice thing to have when you haven't been wheeling for a while and your running a new trail. Sometimes I've been unsure of how far over I am and look over to see I'm on ly at 20 degrees. Helps recalibrate you inner ear. The altimeter is nice if your following a map to help show exactly where you are on a trail. If you can find one in the $25 range buy it. You can always sell it if you change your mind.

My 2 cents FWIW.

L8sho2003

hehehehehe, I knew that would spark some conversation! Thats all I ask for. Everyone cool down.....

Possum

I always wanted one for new trails and things but I didn't want one with a heep on it....