Why does everyone mess with the 3.0?
02-12-2005, 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Bumpin' Yota
I'd pay money to see a 22re match that or hell even a 22ret match that with any level of reliability.
I've got someone with 500hp waiting for you....
02-12-2005, 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by phorunninduke
I've got someone with 500hp waiting for you....
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02-12-2005, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Cebby
It ain't so. You need a special bellhousing and flywheel though. The pics are from Australia or New Zealand. I wondered who'd be first to notice the brake booster. 
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in the dust once you did the 1uz engine swap. Do you think a 1uz with your slushbox, 5.29s and 35s will be able to outrun a 1uz with my 5-speed, 4.88s and 33s 
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02-12-2005, 12:48 PM
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first let me say.... i love my 4runner....
with that said.... the 3vze is a sorry engine.... low on power, poor gas mileage and inherent design flaws that cause headgasket failure....
now if it was fast and got poor mileage, ok..... or if it was slow and gas effiecient, ok....
but to be powerless and get 13mph plus have inevitable headgasket leaks is unforgivable for any car/truck.... even for one built in the 80's/90's....
let me clarify.... i love my truck.... but i'm just hardpressed to find something nice to say about the 3.0...
just my 2cents.... thanks for letting me vent
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1993 4runner V6 4x4 auto, Forest green metallic
(4.56 gears, 31x10.5x15 revos)
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with that said.... the 3vze is a sorry engine.... low on power, poor gas mileage and inherent design flaws that cause headgasket failure....
now if it was fast and got poor mileage, ok..... or if it was slow and gas effiecient, ok....
but to be powerless and get 13mph plus have inevitable headgasket leaks is unforgivable for any car/truck.... even for one built in the 80's/90's....
let me clarify.... i love my truck.... but i'm just hardpressed to find something nice to say about the 3.0...
just my 2cents.... thanks for letting me vent
jay-q
1993 4runner V6 4x4 auto, Forest green metallic
(4.56 gears, 31x10.5x15 revos)
Original Owner / ~135,000mi
02-12-2005, 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 94yotarunner
If I had a... lets say, corolla, I would get pissed everytime I bottomed out or everytime I spun out, or everytime I needed a 4WD.
02-13-2005, 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by 3car
Yep. In 1990, I was driving my dads 90' 4.3L S10 blazer to school daily. It got 20 mpg, and had lots of power. We finally sold that truck in 1999 with 250,000 miles on it. No major repairs, and no oil useage. Old pushrod and TBI engine technology that worked VERY well.
02-13-2005, 07:56 AM
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I've driven three 2nd gens and I've driven 4 3rd gens (owned two) and once you've driven a 3.4 the 3.0 feels real slow and I can't imagine going backwards to a 2nd gen as a DD but a dedicated off road truck a 2nd gen would rock but for towing and general driving the 3.Slo isn't enough for me. I've also driven a current gen V6 and V8 and they make the 3rd gens seem like a 2nd gen but I'm content with my 3rd gen for NOW.
02-13-2005, 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by CoedNaked
Yeah, and people win the lottery every year too!
my second truck was a hand me down k1500 bought new by a family member in 1988. the engine was never opened up until a friends girlfriend borrowed it, and didnt pay attention to the temp guage. a split heater hose killed it with 228,000. new heads, and the bottom end is still in it.
my girlfriends dad has a 90 GMC c2500 with well over 200k, never opened up.
all three of the trucks i mentioned had a couple things in common. they were all daily driven, and they worked their asses off from day one. they were also well maintained, and thats all it takes.
02-13-2005, 10:58 AM
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[QUOTE=3car]are you questioning the reliability and durability of the 4.3 and GM small block engines?
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Yeah, I was being cheaky/my typical sarcastic self. My understanding of Chev's was that they put out a reasonable product in terms of reliablity in the late 80's/early 90's, and since then it's been all down hill. They are STILL working out the bugs on their 99-current gen of full size trucks. Hence they have earned the nickname "slaperados."
I still think Toyota did a damn good job on their first V6. It's still more reliable on average than anything Chevy/GMC has put out.
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Yeah, I was being cheaky/my typical sarcastic self. My understanding of Chev's was that they put out a reasonable product in terms of reliablity in the late 80's/early 90's, and since then it's been all down hill. They are STILL working out the bugs on their 99-current gen of full size trucks. Hence they have earned the nickname "slaperados."
I still think Toyota did a damn good job on their first V6. It's still more reliable on average than anything Chevy/GMC has put out.
02-13-2005, 11:09 AM
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I dont mind my 3.0. even with an auto, 4.10's, and 33's, its not that bad. 5.29's will be in there before too long, and that will help with pulling the boat down the road and passing 22re's on 2 lane roads. 
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Originally Posted by 3car
are you questioning the reliability and durability of the 4.3 and GM small block engines?
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Yeah, I was being cheaky/my typical sarcastic self. My understanding of Chev's was that they put out a reasonable product in terms of reliablity in the late 80's/early 90's, and since then it's been all down hill. They are STILL working out the bugs on their 99-current gen of full size trucks. Hence they have earned the nickname "slaperados."
I still think Toyota did a damn good job on their first V6. It's still more reliable on average than anything Chevy/GMC has put out.
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Yeah, I was being cheaky/my typical sarcastic self. My understanding of Chev's was that they put out a reasonable product in terms of reliablity in the late 80's/early 90's, and since then it's been all down hill. They are STILL working out the bugs on their 99-current gen of full size trucks. Hence they have earned the nickname "slaperados."
I still think Toyota did a damn good job on their first V6. It's still more reliable on average than anything Chevy/GMC has put out.
02-13-2005, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by CoedNaked
I still think Toyota did a damn good job on their first V6. It's still more reliable on average than anything Chevy/GMC has put out.
I've known quite a few Chevy 350s and they've all been pretty good motors in terms of reliability. Not to mention they are cheap to fix, easy to work on, and actually have something we 3.slow owners envy, power.
02-13-2005, 02:26 PM
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a 4.3 is way more reliable. I have 3 friends who are mechanics (own their own shops, make a living off it) that will tell you that the 3.0 is the worst toyota engine ever. A 4.3 gm is way better.
02-13-2005, 09:24 PM
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is it me, or am I the only one that has noticed that this thread was opened up saying, I hate it when people say the 3.0 is slow, then... the thread ends up talking about how everyone deals with it being slow, but its a good engine (I'm not disagreeing... I don't have any experience with them). Just a slight observation on the thread. 
(I'm not disagreeing... I don't have any experience with them). Just a slight observation on the thread.
02-14-2005, 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by ETN4runner
a 4.3 is way more reliable. I have 3 friends who are mechanics (own their own shops, make a living off it) that will tell you that the 3.0 is the worst toyota engine ever. A 4.3 gm is way better.
Every time I hear some swaping out good toyota motors for that junk 4.3, it makes me cringe. The hole reason I own a toyota is because that damn chevy
I have nothing aganst the small block 350.Its a proven reliable motor,but anyone doing a swap please please please stay far away from the 4.3.I hate that engine with a passion.
02-14-2005, 02:11 AM
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Originally Posted by 93YODER
My dad had a chevy s10 with the 4.3craptech motor.It was sooo grossly underpowered that it makes 3.0 feel like a powerhouse!and not only that the piece of crap burned through 3 engiens before it had 100k miles on it.Thats right,they wouldnt even last 50k before needing to be replaced.
Every time I hear some swaping out good toyota motors for that junk 4.3, it makes me cringe.
The hole reason I own a toyota is because that damn chevy
I have nothing aganst the small block 350.Its a proven reliable motor,but anyone doing a swap please please please stay far away from the 4.3.I hate that engine with a passion.
Every time I hear some swaping out good toyota motors for that junk 4.3, it makes me cringe. The hole reason I own a toyota is because that damn chevy
I have nothing aganst the small block 350.Its a proven reliable motor,but anyone doing a swap please please please stay far away from the 4.3.I hate that engine with a passion.
02-14-2005, 05:26 AM
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As much as I like the 3vze, the 4.3L is a much much much more powerful motor than the 3.0. And it is not uncommon for that engine to last every bit as long if not longer than the 3vze. Either he got a bad block, didnt have it rebuilt correctly, or never changed the oil. Im betting the middle one...
But I'd not ever put a chevy engine into my yota - I dont want a toylet...LOL
But I'd not ever put a chevy engine into my yota - I dont want a toylet...LOL
02-14-2005, 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by turboale
is it me, or am I the only one that has noticed that this thread was opened up saying, I hate it when people say the 3.0 is slow, then... the thread ends up talking about how everyone deals with it being slow, but its a good engine (I'm not disagreeing... I don't have any experience with them). Just a slight observation on the thread.
(I'm not disagreeing... I don't have any experience with them). Just a slight observation on the thread.
02-14-2005, 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by 3car
ROFL, do you think maybe its him? The 4.3 vortec is grossly underpowered and makes the 3.0 feel like a powerhouse? Please step away from the crack pipe...
