Projector headlights

AlexJet · 01-05-2010, 12:08 PM

I was looking to upgrade my 2001 4Runner reflector headlights to projector ones.
I looked at the web, but can't find 4Runners projectors for 3rd Gen, but I did find ones for '97-'00 Tacoma.

1. Does anyone knows if there are 4Runner specific projector headlights? If ye, could you post up a link?

2. In case there is no 4Runners available, would Tacoma ones fit 4Runner? Is there any modifications need to be done to fit them?

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b0n3mast3r · 01-05-2010, 12:16 PM

You would need some front in tacoma part like grill

AlexJet · 01-05-2010, 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by b0n3mast3r

You would need some front in tacoma part like grill

What about mounting locations for the screws???

Grilles are not much different. Or I'm missing something? ...Oh, they like inverted vs each other.....

xskydivingdudex · 01-05-2010, 12:26 PM

ur best bet is just to do the retrofit urself or to get someone who knows how to do it... i looked into this a while back and thats y i dont have it done yet.

Midget96 · 01-05-2010, 03:38 PM

Just get the drop in G3 ebay projectors. They work great, have a good cutoff and amazing output. Rivals most OEM projectors.

Check HID Planet for a better review of them and pics.

Rock Slide · 01-05-2010, 06:16 PM

http://www.yotatech.com/f2/another-h.../#post50901220

AlexJet · 01-06-2010, 02:40 AM

Why nobody actually makes a set for 4Runner???

akaphilly · 01-06-2010, 03:44 AM

only the 1337est n1nj4s can make them.. not including me

there was a set pre made in the for sale section a few months back.. they sold quick..

Midget96 · 01-06-2010, 05:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexJet

Why nobody actually makes a set for 4Runner???

It takes less than an hour to make them at home, thats why.

michalik_piotr · 01-06-2010, 07:16 AM

Those will not fit. I saw those a few months ago on a truck and got excited too.... plus i've heard they have a poor pattern anyways. i'm doing the ebay "len" drop in projectors next. you can get the projectors, bulbs and ballasts for $125.

AlexJet · 01-06-2010, 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Midget96

It takes less than an hour to make them at home, thats why.

Are you sure? As far as I saw the forums, it may take a day or 2 to make them...

crackiswack · 01-06-2010, 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by michalik_piotr

Those will not fit. I saw those a few months ago on a truck and got excited too.... plus i've heard they have a poor pattern anyways. i'm doing the ebay "len" drop in projectors next. you can get the projectors, bulbs and ballasts for $125.

those look goofy though. If you go through the trouble of opening up the headlights, then why not just do a full retrofit

Midget96 · 01-06-2010, 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crackiswack

those look goofy though. If you go through the trouble of opening up the headlights, then why not just do a full retrofit

Because the eBay ones are cheaper, take zero fabrication, use D2S/R bulbs and have the output that most OEM projectors have. Really a tough choice...

crackiswack · 01-06-2010, 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Midget96

Because the eBay ones are cheaper, take zero fabrication, use D2S/R bulbs and have the output that most OEM projectors have. Really a tough choice...

actually, after looking at comparison to some OEM projectors, the g3s are pretty blah. Super weak width, sloped cutoff, and hot spots? I'll pass

AlexJet · 01-07-2010, 02:42 AM

As of yesterday eBay listings were showing over $150 for FX projectors for retrofit thread been linked, so retrofit can esily cost above $500 mark. Price tag is high...

Midget96 · 01-07-2010, 09:08 AM

G3 "Ebay" Projectors w/cutsom shield

Nissan FX projectors

There is not a $400 and 15 man hour difference between these two.

StupidPig on HID Planet took these, and he's apparently the only person selling these right now. For $10 he puts in the custom shield for you to give you a great cutoff.

MillerPKA · 01-07-2010, 09:46 AM

Ok now I'm interested. Wheres a link to these g3s? We'd have to purchase the shields separately from a user on hid planet or does he offer the kit?

crackiswack · 01-07-2010, 10:06 AM

First, lets compare similar pictures first of all
FX

Stock G3

Modded G3

If you don't think there isn't a significant difference in width, then I don't know what to tell you. Some people are willing to pay for quality, and I don't even think an FX projector is all that great, and it easily trumps the G3 in terms of width. Just look at the lower left and right corners and along the cutoff line towards the end and compare, where additional output is most important. I would hate to see a comparison to a good projector such as an ls430/TL/s2k
Second, the kit doesn't come with ballasts for that price of $150, so add in a decent set of ballasts for $100+ depending on if you go OEM or not, then you are looking at a total of around $250. If you are totally lazy you can purchase a kit from TRFS for ~$400 total. http://store.theretrofitsource.com/p...8b811d2c93ba5a
So the difference in price is $150. If you put together your own kit for much less. I picked up a set of FX's on HIDplanet for $50 shipped a while back with clear lenses, OEM matsua ballasts and phillips OEM 85122+ bulbs for $120 shipped, and built my own wire harness for ~$15. Build your own shroud for $10, and total would be around $200. LESS than the cost of these aftermarket projectors and you get OEM components.

No argument about the additional time required to do the install, except that it would take longer than an hour to do a retrofit with those g3 projectors once you factor in all the time spent removing the headlights, baking, reassembling, wiring, aiming, installing, reaiming etc. So you are probably looking at 10 hours vs. 20 hours. Also the G3 projectors are held in place by a single threaded insert and nut attached at the very end of the projector and the headlight housing. I would be very concerned about the durability of such an install if the vehicle is used offroad like its meant to be.

At the end of the day it comes down to personal choice, available time, and skill level, but to true lighting enthusiasts, a real retrofit is superior to those lights in every way

robertcrav · 02-01-2010, 09:29 AM

Hey Midget do you have pics of yours?

Also, does anyone have a pic of the stock beam pattern vs the g3 vs fx..?

01-05-2010, 12:26 PM	#4 (permalink)
xskydivingdudex Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 267	ur best bet is just to do the retrofit urself or to get someone who knows how to do it... i looked into this a while back and thats y i dont have it done yet. __________________ 2002 4runner Sport Edition \| DDM Tuning HID Kit \| Sylvania Silverstars \| OME 882/891 with Comfort Shocks \| 285/75 BFG All-Terrains \| All-Pro Wheel Spacers \| PIAA/BAJA Lights \| Rola Vortex Roof Rack \|

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AlexJet Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 507	Why nobody actually makes a set for 4Runner??? __________________ 2005 4Runner V6 Limited 5" lift, 35", ARB locker, ARB & CBI bumpers, Snorkel ... 2001 4Runner V6 Limited 3.5" lift, 33", ARB & CBI bumpers, Snorkel 2009 AE Expedition Trailer 35"

01-06-2010, 03:44 AM	#8 (permalink)
akaphilly Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Cape Cod Posts: 337	only the 1337est n1nj4s can make them.. not including me there was a set pre made in the for sale section a few months back.. they sold quick.. __________________ 84 longbed p/u, 94 22re, header, RUF's, f150 rears, all-pro triple x member, duals, lockrite, lsd front 35mtr 96 limited 4runner, trd s/c exhaust trans cooler, toytec coilovers, fj80 rears, budbuild front skid 285/75 procomp mt

01-06-2010, 07:16 AM	#10 (permalink)
michalik_piotr Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Seattle Posts: 650	Those will not fit. I saw those a few months ago on a truck and got excited too.... plus i've heard they have a poor pattern anyways. i'm doing the ebay "len" drop in projectors next. you can get the projectors, bulbs and ballasts for $125. __________________ 1985 4runner sr5 - 5spd, 22re..........sold 2000 Limited: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7BRC75hZ34 Ducati: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwUgRWGfjAE Lucifer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hBWKilxJN0

01-05-2010, 12:16 PM	#2 (permalink)
b0n3mast3r Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: south sacramento ca Posts: 240	You would need some front in tacoma part like grill

01-05-2010, 03:38 PM	#5 (permalink)
Midget96 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 435	Just get the drop in G3 ebay projectors. They work great, have a good cutoff and amazing output. Rivals most OEM projectors. Check HID Planet for a better review of them and pics.

01-07-2010, 02:42 AM	#15 (permalink)
AlexJet Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 507	As of yesterday eBay listings were showing over $150 for FX projectors for retrofit thread been linked, so retrofit can esily cost above $500 mark. Price tag is high... __________________ 2005 4Runner V6 Limited 5" lift, 35", ARB locker, ARB & CBI bumpers, Snorkel ... 2001 4Runner V6 Limited 3.5" lift, 33", ARB & CBI bumpers, Snorkel 2009 AE Expedition Trailer 35" Last edited by AlexJet; 01-07-2010 at 02:43 AM.

01-07-2010, 09:08 AM	#16 (permalink)
Midget96 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 435	G3 "Ebay" Projectors w/cutsom shield Nissan FX projectors There is not a $400 and 15 man hour difference between these two. StupidPig on HID Planet took these, and he's apparently the only person selling these right now. For $10 he puts in the custom shield for you to give you a great cutoff.

01-07-2010, 09:46 AM	#17 (permalink)
MillerPKA Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: GSU/ATL/SD Posts: 1,434	Ok now I'm interested. Wheres a link to these g3s? We'd have to purchase the shields separately from a user on hid planet or does he offer the kit? __________________ Weston 97 SR5: Profile 883/LC with OME/PC shocks ∙ 2" body lift ∙ ARB bull bar ∙ Safari Snorkel ∙ KC/IPF aux lighting ∙ 315/75 BF Goodrich KM2s ∙ LC Wheels ∙ Vortex Cherrybomb ∙ Gobi Stealth System ∙ Toytec Lifts ∙ Gobi USA Racks ∙ Bushwacker

01-07-2010, 10:06 AM	#18 (permalink)
crackiswack Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 27	First, lets compare similar pictures first of all FX Stock G3 Modded G3 If you don't think there isn't a significant difference in width, then I don't know what to tell you. Some people are willing to pay for quality, and I don't even think an FX projector is all that great, and it easily trumps the G3 in terms of width. Just look at the lower left and right corners and along the cutoff line towards the end and compare, where additional output is most important. I would hate to see a comparison to a good projector such as an ls430/TL/s2k Second, the kit doesn't come with ballasts for that price of $150, so add in a decent set of ballasts for $100+ depending on if you go OEM or not, then you are looking at a total of around $250. If you are totally lazy you can purchase a kit from TRFS for ~$400 total. http://store.theretrofitsource.com/p...8b811d2c93ba5a So the difference in price is $150. If you put together your own kit for much less. I picked up a set of FX's on HIDplanet for $50 shipped a while back with clear lenses, OEM matsua ballasts and phillips OEM 85122+ bulbs for $120 shipped, and built my own wire harness for ~$15. Build your own shroud for $10, and total would be around $200. LESS than the cost of these aftermarket projectors and you get OEM components. No argument about the additional time required to do the install, except that it would take longer than an hour to do a retrofit with those g3 projectors once you factor in all the time spent removing the headlights, baking, reassembling, wiring, aiming, installing, reaiming etc. So you are probably looking at 10 hours vs. 20 hours. Also the G3 projectors are held in place by a single threaded insert and nut attached at the very end of the projector and the headlight housing. I would be very concerned about the durability of such an install if the vehicle is used offroad like its meant to be. At the end of the day it comes down to personal choice, available time, and skill level, but to true lighting enthusiasts, a real retrofit is superior to those lights in every way

02-01-2010, 09:29 AM	#19 (permalink)
robertcrav Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 83	Link? Hey Midget do you have pics of yours? Also, does anyone have a pic of the stock beam pattern vs the g3 vs fx..? __________________ 1997 SR5 4Runner - Total Chaos Upper Arms, King Coilovers, Downey rear springs with Bilsteins, 285/75r16 Goodyear MT/R's on 16x8 Raceline Renegade 6 Wheels, Defiant Truck Products Light Bar w/3 Kragen HID's, 5% all the way around with a windshield brow, Deck Plate, K&N Panel, TB Spacer, '99 headlights, "Cupholder Mod" Soon to be installed, '99 overhead console and rear storage panel

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