Install Tips for Viper 550 ESP???

MTL_4runner · 12-07-2003, 02:04 PM

Hey Guys,

I have been wanting a good alarm / remote starter for my 4runner since it is getting so friggin cold here now (nice little blizzard today). Well I finally got one comming for x-mas and I will need to put it in soon before it really gets cold (or my wife really starts complaining, whichever comes first).

Anyway, I will be doing it myself so.....
Has anyone installed this alarm themselves?
If so any tips, problems, advice, hints are most helpful.

Let me hear from ya.

Thanks!!!

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saigon1965 · 12-07-2003, 03:12 PM

I work next to a Circuit City, and those guys install those alarms all day long, but they have help from tech sheets (cheat sheets) to match up wiring and all that good stuff. If you want I can probably get those cheat sheets for you, it makes thing a whole lot easier from what I observed. Let me know.

shazaam · 12-07-2003, 05:20 PM

You know I have one of those fancy remotes with the screen on it. I had it installed at Tweeter about 11 months ago, and I broke the remote from dropping it over and over. They replaced it free under their lifetime warranty. Which more then paid for the cost of install.
Just one thing to consider before doing it yourself. But if you do, do it yourself, its a rather straightforward instal. I watched the guy as he did mine. You can also get DEI on the phone to help you with the wires matching up, they have great customer service.

good luck

3rd Gen.X · 12-07-2003, 05:43 PM

I would recommend these 2 sites: the12volt.com and carsound.com

MTL_4runner · 12-07-2003, 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by saigon1965
I work next to a Circuit City, and those guys install those alarms all day long, but they have help from tech sheets (cheat sheets) to match up wiring and all that good stuff. If you want I can probably get those cheat sheets for you, it makes thing a whole lot easier from what I observed. Let me know.

Hey saigon1965,
If you could get me one of those cheat sheets that would help a ton!!!!! I will have a manual and have looked at it online but it is usually quite generic. If I could have the alarm wiring direct matched to the truck's wiring harness it would be a cake walk! I would really apprecaite the help.

sdastg1,
I would love to have them do it but I got such a deal on the alarm (only $130 new with a parts warranty!!!!) So unless I can bring the shop my own alarm to put in it wouldn't be worth it. Plus if anything goes wrong they will blame the part.....sounds like a headache to me.....not worth the hassle. I am pretty good with electronics but the "cheat sheets" would help the process considerably and allow me to get my bearings much quicker.

I will try and take some pics to help others in the future.

Keep the comments comming!.....helps a ton!

saigon1965 · 12-07-2003, 07:45 PM

I'll hit the fellas at Circuit up tomorow for the tech sheets, your rig is a 96, I looked at your pics but can't tell if it's an auto or stick, let me know, they just installed the very same alarm for my 97 runner and I like it alot, they even added the windows up and down for a little bling bling . You have access to a fax? let me know.

3rd Gen.X · 12-08-2003, 12:44 AM

Hate to but in, but the above mentioned sites have most all vehicles tech. sheets on file, plus you can ask experienced installers for advice as you install the alarm. They are a great help for any skill level. LOTS of alarm info/tips. I recently installed a Clifford AG4 remote start alarm for my first ever install, and know what a help these 2 sites can be.

MTL_4runner · 12-08-2003, 04:02 AM

3rd Gen.X,
Yes, I definately appreciate the help/links...I will certainly take a look and I do appreciate the help. If saigon1965 can get me the sheet(s) then that will just save me some searching and give me a good head start before I get into it. I will certainly take a look at the sites before I start the job.
Thanks again!

MTL_4runner · 12-08-2003, 12:22 PM

Hey saigon1965,
Check your PM if you haven't already.

MTL_4runner · 12-09-2003, 06:50 AM

Send me all the "cheat sheets" you guys have.

Thx!

MTL_4runner · 12-09-2003, 07:40 PM

Was anyone able to get any of the sheets?
I sent out a bunch of PMs.

Rymin929 · 12-09-2003, 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MTL_4runner
Was anyone able to get any of the sheets?
I sent out a bunch of PMs.

Check your email and or pm...

saigon1965 · 12-09-2003, 10:53 PM

Dude, tried faxing you today but some "French" broad's answering machine came on , her message was in french too, your girlfriend? maybe wrong fax number?

WT · 12-10-2003, 07:28 AM

I managed to get hold of a PDF that may do what your looking for so drop me a PM and I'll shot it out to you. Forgot to mention the info I got is for a 96

AznSky · 12-10-2003, 08:11 AM

hey MTL, you're gonna have a write-up after this right?

MTL_4runner · 12-10-2003, 12:06 PM

I'll take a bunch of pics when i do it and post the tech sheets I have collected thus far. Thanks to all who have sent me stuff for this.

I can't wait to put it in because everyone that has installed it seems to love the alarm (I really want the remote start part). I have a Viper C70 (that's what is on the brain unit anyway.....but I can't find an install manual for it on DEI's website!?.....so it may be a part number for another model of alarm) installed right now (it was done professionally before I got the truck) so i hope that will make my life a bit easier.

Anyone know where I can get an install manual for the viper C70?
Is the C70 even an alarm model or is it a part number for another alarm?

WT · 12-10-2003, 06:17 PM

Yeah I got the Viper 790XV sitting in a box still i got last month, Waiting on a buddy to do the hook up he said its pretty strait forward on the 4Runner but hes done this before in his past job so I trust him to do it right for me. Now thats its gotten cold out I wish I had the remote start from a 1/4mile away with confimation

Also I sent you email with the file.
Keep us update on how it all works out

MTL_4runner · 01-01-2004, 04:11 PM

Well I just got the unit last night and started the install today. Too bad I picked the coldest damn day of the year to try and finish the job. What a royal pain in the butt to run all the wires (really not that bad but the cold weather and nasty windchill really makes it all quite miserable

). Word of advice to all who will attempt this install.......put in a remote starter BEFORE you need it.

That aside I should have some pics up by tomorrow.

shazaam · 01-01-2004, 05:04 PM

Mine stopped working a few weeks ago. Like you push the buttons and nothing would happen, wouldn't let me start the car with the key ... nothing. After about an hour I just reached under the dash and ripped the whole damn thing. Started right up and drove over to tweeter, and demanded the number to DEI and Tweeter corporate. The guy told his store manager and he came over and told me that their getting a shipment of the new Viper alarms in on the 5th of January. and that he would rewire the entire alarm and no charge, and continue my life time warranty. He even offered his personal car so that I wouldn't be without a car for the day.

oh good luck with the install.

gn86r · 01-01-2004, 05:22 PM

i was looking for exactly the same thing, make sure you select the right year. they've got wiring sheets for many cars on that site also. hope this helps...

http://www.bulldogsecurity.com/wires/toy4run00-01.htm

http://www.bulldogsecurity.com/wires/toy4run99.htm

http://www.bulldogsecurity.com/wires/4runner96-98.htm

MTL_4runner · 01-02-2004, 11:26 AM

Can someone post a wiring diagram for the ECU, I am having trouble locating a tach wire that is easy to get to. I tried to route it through the firewall and it worked well but I could not close the diagnostic port after. I would like to get a wire off of the ECU that works so if anyone knows the color offhand I am willing to try. Thanks for the help!

I am so darn close to finishing I can taste it.

MTL_4runner · 01-02-2004, 02:20 PM

I finally got it all to work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:xmas3:

I will try to write something up so others do't have to go through the same 2 day battle I did. This install was not for the faint at heart and when you are done you are pretty much able to hotwire your own vehicle blindfolded.

It was a bit tougher for me cause I looked for other pics or info about someone else doing something similar on a 4runner but it seems like everyone just takes it to an electronics place and has them do it. If you are squeemish about ripping the entire dash apart, then by all means have someone else do it for ya. Routing the wires was a major PITA but once they were all run it really came out nice and the rest seemed to fly. The cold was miserable but I felt pretty good when it all worked.

Also this website rocks for alarm install info:
http://www.the12volt.com/installbay/...pics.asp?FID=3

Several times it got me out of hot water!

MTL_4runner · 01-05-2004, 05:13 PM

Here are the pics I promised!!!!!

Alarm as it came out of the box

The old alarm install was a mess

Putting in the remote starter part (relays galore!)

Look at all the soldering fun I had

Here is a look just before I buttoned it up

I wish I could have taken more pics but I froze my a$$ off putting it in so that was the best i could do under the circumstances. There are some more pics at webshots so take a look here if you want to see everything I took:
http://community.webshots.com/album/109253034GvuWek

If anyone needs help figuring out their install give me a holler.
Thanks to all who helped with the wiring diagrams and cheat sheets!

12-07-2003, 05:20 PM	#3 (permalink)
shazaam Contributing Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,057	You know I have one of those fancy remotes with the screen on it. I had it installed at Tweeter about 11 months ago, and I broke the remote from dropping it over and over. They replaced it free under their lifetime warranty. Which more then paid for the cost of install. Just one thing to consider before doing it yourself. But if you do, do it yourself, its a rather straightforward instal. I watched the guy as he did mine. You can also get DEI on the phone to help you with the wires matching up, they have great customer service. good luck __________________ Experience is a hard teacher because she gives the test first, and the lesson afterwards. <-- the artist formerly known as sdastg1

12-08-2003, 04:02 AM	#8 (permalink)
MTL_4runner Contributing Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Montreal, QC Canada Posts: 8,807	3rd Gen.X, Yes, I definately appreciate the help/links...I will certainly take a look and I do appreciate the help. If saigon1965 can get me the sheet(s) then that will just save me some searching and give me a good head start before I get into it. I will certainly take a look at the sites before I start the job. Thanks again! __________________ - Jamie 1996 4Runner SR5 4X4 Auto Deckplate Mod, Hayden Tranny Cooler, Amsoil Air Filter, OME 881/906 N86C/N91SC Lift Best OBD II scan tool I have used!. .....and I am AMERICAN!

12-08-2003, 12:22 PM	#9 (permalink)
MTL_4runner Contributing Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Montreal, QC Canada Posts: 8,807	Hey saigon1965, Check your PM if you haven't already. __________________ - Jamie 1996 4Runner SR5 4X4 Auto Deckplate Mod, Hayden Tranny Cooler, Amsoil Air Filter, OME 881/906 N86C/N91SC Lift Best OBD II scan tool I have used!. .....and I am AMERICAN!

12-09-2003, 06:50 AM	#10 (permalink)
MTL_4runner Contributing Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Montreal, QC Canada Posts: 8,807	Send me all the "cheat sheets" you guys have. Thx! __________________ - Jamie 1996 4Runner SR5 4X4 Auto Deckplate Mod, Hayden Tranny Cooler, Amsoil Air Filter, OME 881/906 N86C/N91SC Lift Best OBD II scan tool I have used!. .....and I am AMERICAN!

12-09-2003, 07:40 PM	#11 (permalink)
MTL_4runner Contributing Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Montreal, QC Canada Posts: 8,807	Was anyone able to get any of the sheets? I sent out a bunch of PMs. __________________ - Jamie 1996 4Runner SR5 4X4 Auto Deckplate Mod, Hayden Tranny Cooler, Amsoil Air Filter, OME 881/906 N86C/N91SC Lift Best OBD II scan tool I have used!. .....and I am AMERICAN!

12-07-2003, 03:12 PM	#2 (permalink)
saigon1965 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Hayward, CA Posts: 250	I work next to a Circuit City, and those guys install those alarms all day long, but they have help from tech sheets (cheat sheets) to match up wiring and all that good stuff. If you want I can probably get those cheat sheets for you, it makes thing a whole lot easier from what I observed. Let me know.

12-07-2003, 05:43 PM	#4 (permalink)
3rd Gen.X Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Bellingham, WA Posts: 15	I would recommend these 2 sites: the12volt.com and carsound.com

12-07-2003, 07:45 PM	#6 (permalink)
saigon1965 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Hayward, CA Posts: 250	I'll hit the fellas at Circuit up tomorow for the tech sheets, your rig is a 96, I looked at your pics but can't tell if it's an auto or stick, let me know, they just installed the very same alarm for my 97 runner and I like it alot, they even added the windows up and down for a little bling bling . You have access to a fax? let me know.

12-08-2003, 12:44 AM	#7 (permalink)
3rd Gen.X Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Bellingham, WA Posts: 15	Hate to but in, but the above mentioned sites have most all vehicles tech. sheets on file, plus you can ask experienced installers for advice as you install the alarm. They are a great help for any skill level. LOTS of alarm info/tips. I recently installed a Clifford AG4 remote start alarm for my first ever install, and know what a help these 2 sites can be.

12-09-2003, 10:53 PM	#13 (permalink)
saigon1965 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Hayward, CA Posts: 250	Dude, tried faxing you today but some "French" broad's answering machine came on , her message was in french too, your girlfriend? maybe wrong fax number?

12-10-2003, 07:28 AM	#14 (permalink)
WT Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Virgina Posts: 721	I got a PDF that might help I managed to get hold of a PDF that may do what your looking for so drop me a PM and I'll shot it out to you. Forgot to mention the info I got is for a 96 __________________ 96 4Runner SR5 SC \| 3" Revtek Front/OME 891 Rear,Diff/Panhard Drop\|AirLift bags\|285/75/R16 Nitto Terra Grappler\|Eaqle 121 w/TRD Logo\|Bilsteins\|Cross-Drilled PS w/PF Pads\|Silver Reverse Gauges\|Custom Grill\|Catch-All Floor Mats\|Sylvania SilverStar\|Weather Tech Visors\|Clear Corner/Fronts\|Alpine MP3/WMA/CD\|99+Headlight/Console Mod\|K&N FIPK W/Drycharger\|Optima Redtop\|Trans-Cooler\|Remote Start\|PICS\|PICS2\| Last edited by WT; 12-10-2003 at 10:29 AM.

12-10-2003, 08:11 AM	#15 (permalink)
AznSky Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 2,796	hey MTL, you're gonna have a write-up after this right? __________________ Rob

12-10-2003, 12:06 PM	#16 (permalink)
MTL_4runner Contributing Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Montreal, QC Canada Posts: 8,807	I'll take a bunch of pics when i do it and post the tech sheets I have collected thus far. Thanks to all who have sent me stuff for this. I can't wait to put it in because everyone that has installed it seems to love the alarm (I really want the remote start part). I have a Viper C70 (that's what is on the brain unit anyway.....but I can't find an install manual for it on DEI's website!?.....so it may be a part number for another model of alarm) installed right now (it was done professionally before I got the truck) so i hope that will make my life a bit easier. Anyone know where I can get an install manual for the viper C70? Is the C70 even an alarm model or is it a part number for another alarm? __________________ - Jamie 1996 4Runner SR5 4X4 Auto Deckplate Mod, Hayden Tranny Cooler, Amsoil Air Filter, OME 881/906 N86C/N91SC Lift Best OBD II scan tool I have used!. .....and I am AMERICAN!

12-10-2003, 06:17 PM	#17 (permalink)
WT Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Virgina Posts: 721	Yeah I got the Viper 790XV sitting in a box still i got last month, Waiting on a buddy to do the hook up he said its pretty strait forward on the 4Runner but hes done this before in his past job so I trust him to do it right for me. Now thats its gotten cold out I wish I had the remote start from a 1/4mile away with confimation Also I sent you email with the file. Keep us update on how it all works out __________________ 96 4Runner SR5 SC \| 3" Revtek Front/OME 891 Rear,Diff/Panhard Drop\|AirLift bags\|285/75/R16 Nitto Terra Grappler\|Eaqle 121 w/TRD Logo\|Bilsteins\|Cross-Drilled PS w/PF Pads\|Silver Reverse Gauges\|Custom Grill\|Catch-All Floor Mats\|Sylvania SilverStar\|Weather Tech Visors\|Clear Corner/Fronts\|Alpine MP3/WMA/CD\|99+Headlight/Console Mod\|K&N FIPK W/Drycharger\|Optima Redtop\|Trans-Cooler\|Remote Start\|PICS\|PICS2\|

01-01-2004, 04:11 PM	#18 (permalink)
MTL_4runner Contributing Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Montreal, QC Canada Posts: 8,807	Well I just got the unit last night and started the install today. Too bad I picked the coldest damn day of the year to try and finish the job. What a royal pain in the butt to run all the wires (really not that bad but the cold weather and nasty windchill really makes it all quite miserable ). Word of advice to all who will attempt this install.......put in a remote starter BEFORE you need it. That aside I should have some pics up by tomorrow. __________________ - Jamie 1996 4Runner SR5 4X4 Auto Deckplate Mod, Hayden Tranny Cooler, Amsoil Air Filter, OME 881/906 N86C/N91SC Lift Best OBD II scan tool I have used!. .....and I am AMERICAN!

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01-01-2004, 05:04 PM	#19 (permalink)
shazaam Contributing Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,057	Mine stopped working a few weeks ago. Like you push the buttons and nothing would happen, wouldn't let me start the car with the key ... nothing. After about an hour I just reached under the dash and ripped the whole damn thing. Started right up and drove over to tweeter, and demanded the number to DEI and Tweeter corporate. The guy told his store manager and he came over and told me that their getting a shipment of the new Viper alarms in on the 5th of January. and that he would rewire the entire alarm and no charge, and continue my life time warranty. He even offered his personal car so that I wouldn't be without a car for the day. oh good luck with the install. __________________ Experience is a hard teacher because she gives the test first, and the lesson afterwards. <-- the artist formerly known as sdastg1

01-01-2004, 05:22 PM	#20 (permalink)
gn86r Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: jacksonville, fl Posts: 232	i was looking for exactly the same thing, make sure you select the right year. they've got wiring sheets for many cars on that site also. hope this helps... http://www.bulldogsecurity.com/wires/toy4run00-01.htm http://www.bulldogsecurity.com/wires/toy4run99.htm http://www.bulldogsecurity.com/wires/4runner96-98.htm Last edited by gn86r; 01-01-2004 at 05:24 PM.

01-02-2004, 11:26 AM	#21 (permalink)
MTL_4runner Contributing Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Montreal, QC Canada Posts: 8,807	Can someone post a wiring diagram for the ECU, I am having trouble locating a tach wire that is easy to get to. I tried to route it through the firewall and it worked well but I could not close the diagnostic port after. I would like to get a wire off of the ECU that works so if anyone knows the color offhand I am willing to try. Thanks for the help! I am so darn close to finishing I can taste it. __________________ - Jamie 1996 4Runner SR5 4X4 Auto Deckplate Mod, Hayden Tranny Cooler, Amsoil Air Filter, OME 881/906 N86C/N91SC Lift Best OBD II scan tool I have used!. .....and I am AMERICAN! Last edited by MTL_4runner; 01-02-2004 at 02:16 PM.

01-02-2004, 02:20 PM	#22 (permalink)
MTL_4runner Contributing Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Montreal, QC Canada Posts: 8,807	I finally got it all to work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :xmas3: I will try to write something up so others do't have to go through the same 2 day battle I did. This install was not for the faint at heart and when you are done you are pretty much able to hotwire your own vehicle blindfolded. It was a bit tougher for me cause I looked for other pics or info about someone else doing something similar on a 4runner but it seems like everyone just takes it to an electronics place and has them do it. If you are squeemish about ripping the entire dash apart, then by all means have someone else do it for ya. Routing the wires was a major PITA but once they were all run it really came out nice and the rest seemed to fly. The cold was miserable but I felt pretty good when it all worked. Also this website rocks for alarm install info: http://www.the12volt.com/installbay/...pics.asp?FID=3 Several times it got me out of hot water! __________________ - Jamie 1996 4Runner SR5 4X4 Auto Deckplate Mod, Hayden Tranny Cooler, Amsoil Air Filter, OME 881/906 N86C/N91SC Lift Best OBD II scan tool I have used!. .....and I am AMERICAN! Last edited by MTL_4runner; 01-02-2004 at 02:35 PM.

01-05-2004, 05:13 PM	#23 (permalink)
MTL_4runner Contributing Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Montreal, QC Canada Posts: 8,807	Here are the pics I promised!!!!! Alarm as it came out of the box The old alarm install was a mess Putting in the remote starter part (relays galore!) Look at all the soldering fun I had Here is a look just before I buttoned it up I wish I could have taken more pics but I froze my a$$ off putting it in so that was the best i could do under the circumstances. There are some more pics at webshots so take a look here if you want to see everything I took: http://community.webshots.com/album/109253034GvuWek If anyone needs help figuring out their install give me a holler. Thanks to all who helped with the wiring diagrams and cheat sheets! __________________ - Jamie 1996 4Runner SR5 4X4 Auto Deckplate Mod, Hayden Tranny Cooler, Amsoil Air Filter, OME 881/906 N86C/N91SC Lift Best OBD II scan tool I have used!. .....and I am AMERICAN!

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