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Old 02-23-2005, 04:24 AM
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IT'S A TRUCK, YOU'RE GOING TO GET CRAPPY GAS MILEAGE - DEAL WITH IT!!!

If you want 30mpg, go buy a hybrid.
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Amen brother.
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.....but Jackson, how do you REALY feel?

J/K

I hear ya on that one.

I have not had any serious drop in mileage on long trips even in the dead of winter.
The idling to warm up the truck drops it a bit, but hey, that's the price of doing business where the white stuff falls.

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Old 02-23-2005, 04:48 AM
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Maybe with some 2:70 gears and 28" tires, I could get 30 mpg!
Although I really dont have a complaint w/ my fuel mileage.
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The worst part is the people that are bad at math and the concept of ROI when "fixing" lower than expected MPG.
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The only time I would really worry about gas mileage is when it drops dramatically due to leaky injectors or the cat being stopped up.
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last week i was literally rushing all around the city all week.

i averaged 12 mpg.

can you believe that?
Old 02-23-2005, 05:25 AM
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Originally Posted by lee
last week i was literally rushing all around the city all week.

i averaged 12 mpg.

can you believe that?
Yep - a heavy foot will do that. Welcome to the world of trucks.
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Simple steps to improve your gas mileage: Pretend there is an egg between your foot and the gas pedal (tromping on the accelerator as you leave from a stop eats gas), anticipate your stops (is your foot still on the accelerator after the second of three rumblestrips in the road???), switch to a quality synthetic such as Amsoil (less friction in the engine & tranny=less gas used. BTW, if you do the math it does not cost more on a yearly basis, it's about the same, and your engine will last longer because it has had a life of best possible lubrication), dont warm your rig up for an excessive period of time, keep your tires properly inflated (even bump it up a couple lbs if going on a road trip), and finally if mileage is the most important thing to you dont lift your rig or put on bigger tires. There, I made a contribution to the definitive thread on all MPG related questions and none of the recommendations cost you any money.
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Originally Posted by 4Runner4Christ
Simple steps to improve your gas mileage: Pretend there is an egg between your foot and the gas pedal (tromping on the accelerator as you leave from a stop eats gas), anticipate your stops (is your foot still on the accelerator after the second of three rumblestrips in the road???), switch to a quality synthetic such as Amsoil (less friction in the engine & tranny=less gas used. BTW, if you do the math it does not cost more on a yearly basis, it's about the same, and your engine will last longer because it has had a life of best possible lubrication), dont warm your rig up for an excessive period of time, keep your tires properly inflated (even bump it up a couple lbs if going on a road trip), and finally if mileage is the most important thing to you dont lift your rig or put on bigger tires. There, I made a contribution to the definitive thread on all MPG related questions and none of the recommendations cost you any money.

Oh yeah, and don't forget to always drive down hill.
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You make it sound like its a Ford F-350 or something, Its a midsized SUV. Theres Crew cab dodges that get better mpg than my average 12 mpg.
I can stand 12mpg for fun though. But for a DD I got the camry or Taco.
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Originally Posted by Sherpa
Oh yeah, and don't forget to always drive down hill.
LOL, yeah I also plan my vacations based on which way the wind is blowing so I always have a tail wind. Sometimes it takes a while to get back though.
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Fuel Type Regular
MPG (city) 17
MPG (highway) 19
MPG (combined) 18
Annual Fuel Cost $1510
(www.fueleconomy.gov)

I've heard people asking if putting a bike rack on top of their 4Runner will decrease fuel economy.. I am like WTF, it's an SUV, it's going to suck no matter what.

I do think the economy of the 4Runner does suck in the fact that my 5.0 liter 1995 F-150 get's the same numbers. I mean a Toyota 6 should perform better but I still like my 4Runner to much to worry about. Toyota's answer to fuel efficient SUV's is diesel, has been for decades, but the EPA ˟˟˟˟˟ed us on that one.
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Indeed, that is something that puzzles me - why the full size big engines are getting nearly the same mileage. They improve with each new generation, but the smaller SUVs and trucks with v6s get the same kind of mileage they did 15 years ago. The 4cyls have improved too - I drove a Taco the other day with the 2.7 and it was peppier than my 3.slow, yet the guy says he sees a steady 20 - 21 in real world driving. Not bad, I would consider that setup.

I've been making the trip to Portland (120 miles each way) twice a week for a couple months now, and I get 15.5 to 16.3 in the 5.4 liter F150. I only get 17-18 in the Yota, and even then only if I'm careful. (I take the F anyway because it is WAAAAY more comfortable, and at my age I'll pay the penalty and enjoy the trip.)
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Originally Posted by lee
last week i was literally rushing all around the city all week.

i averaged 12 mpg.

can you believe that?

No, I can't imagine. Makes no sense, does it? If I drive like a maniac, (and I do sometimes) always lead footing it, my F150, which is MUCH bigger (and roomier inside) than a 4Runner, much heavier, and one heck of a lot more powerful, never ever gets worse than 14. Towing - 14, playing in the mountains - 14. Ordinary day to day not driving like a maniac - 15 to 16.

Go figure.

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I do think the economy of the 4Runner does suck in the fact that my 5.0 liter 1995 F-150 get's the same numbers. I mean a Toyota 6 should perform better
The larger engine works less than the V6.

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Yep, that's part of it. But generally a smaller displacement working harder is more efficient. I think it's because they've been working hard to get more efficiency from the v8, but the v6 development has been all about making more power. The mileage gap narrows...
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I probably lost some milage due to new Revos, but after avoiding an accident in the rain last night, I couldn't care less.
details: comming back from work driving next to f150, he hit a huge puddle created by a firehydrate being knockout up the street. I was just about to pass him when suddenly I had water cascading across my windshield. I couldn't see anything for what seemed like minutes, I hit the brakes to slow down and anticipated a collision with the Ford , being rearended or hitting the meridian. No skidding happened, the visibility came back as the ford had come to a stop and I could drive on safe by the firehydrant fontain.

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Agreed with Jacksonpt, crappy mileage goes with the territory. Our Explorer gets 18-20 and the 4Runner 19-22 on average. I'm looking at getting an old Prelude to use as a commuter to keep my miles driven and gas bill down, so that's my answer to bad mileage.
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i've been putting med grade in my truck, 2.4l, 33's with stock gearing and getting 18-20.


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