Canadian v. US 4Runners

Andrew · 01-19-2004, 08:48 PM

Any differences between 99 4Runner Limiteds in the US/CA?

From what I understand, in CA they all came with roof racks, sunroofs, rear heaters, and locking rear diffs. But you couldn't get a factory wind deflector that most US 4Rs had. True?

Thanks...
andrew

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Brendan · 01-19-2004, 09:14 PM

AFAIK, here in Canada, the e-locker only came if you bought the optional TRD package

Andrew · 01-19-2004, 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SizzleChest
AFAIK, here in Canada, the e-locker only came if you bought the optional TRD package

No, there was never a TRD package on the 4Runners, not even in Canada... maybe you're confused with the Tacos? I know that the locker was standard on 00 Limiteds in Canada (I found a brochure on the internet)... but I don't know what other changes.

cool avatar btw. giggity giggity.

jruz · 01-19-2004, 09:46 PM

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Originally posted by Andrew
...not even in Canada...

Just out of curiousity...how do you know...? Live in Ca....? Work for Toyota...?

Jim

Andrew · 01-19-2004, 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jruz
Just out of curiousity...how do you know...? Live in Ca....? Work for Toyota...?

Jim

Up until a year and a half ago I had a 2000 4Runner Limited... I am familiar with all of the models ever offered in Canada, even the obscure Badlands edition.

I am just not sure if there were any functional differences between US and CA 4Runners- emissions, heating upgrades, block heaters, etc.

Thanks... wish I lived in Vancouver, though! Great city....

jruz · 01-19-2004, 09:56 PM

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Originally posted by Andrew
...I am familiar with all of the models ever offered in Canada, even the obscure Badlands edition. ...

Just via the Internet?

I just wouldn't go 100% by everything you read on here...

BigJohn · 01-19-2004, 09:59 PM

heh i have the rare badlands model they have sweet bucket seats in them alot better then sr5 seats, i know that mine has a windshield washer fluid low symbol i dont think us models have this, Mine also comes with a whip attena i dont think any us models have this

914runner · 01-19-2004, 10:10 PM

i found this "badlands" 4runner while searching "badlands 4runner" in google. it looks alot like BigJohn's rig!

lee · 01-20-2004, 05:43 AM

http://autonet.ca/EdmontonDrive/Stor...m?storyID=4297

i dont know for sure, but my understanding from talking to various canadian friends is that they had less options -- most of their runners came fully loaded... base sr5s are very hard to find up there, apparently.

very few 2wds as well.

MTL_4runner · 01-20-2004, 06:47 AM

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Originally posted by lee

very few 2wds as well.

HMMMMM.......wonder why that is?

Sorry guys I can't say much on the differences, mine came from the US.
I do know if you bring it to a dealer up here and run the VIN it is like it never existed.
Toyota Canada and Toyota US are completely different companies.
If there are recalls they need to be done in the country of origin.
Totally sucks I know.....found that out after quite a few calls to Toyota corporate.

Andrew · 01-20-2004, 07:12 AM

Interesting, thanks for the responses everyone.

jruz- What? You don't believe everything you read on the internet?

You might not recognize my name on this forum, as I sold my 4Runner just before YotaTech arrived, but I've been around in the 4Runner community for a while. I have some Canadian brochures (which aren't terribly specific, but they do give the models and the options- just not the technical details like what BigJohn mentioned) and I've spoken to some Candians. While it's possible that there was a TRD version, I'm pretty sure I would have heard of it by now. My guess is that any 4Runner in Canada that says TRD is a dealership special or done up by a 4Runner enthusiast. I don't mean to come off like a snob and I applogize if I've offended, but on this one I'm certain there was no TRD version. We definitely would have made a big stink about it here in the US if we had been denied the TRD version.

BigJohn- I agree with you on the Badlands seats! When I lived in Texas, I considered trading my '00 for an '02 Badlands- a dealership in San Antonio had purchased a BUNCH of them with less than 500 miles each. I went down and had a look at them... seats were much plusher. I liked the steel rims, too. Your mention of the washer fluid low light turned on a lightbulb somewhere WAY back in my head... I wonder if all models of the 4Runners had that? It might be a requirement in Canada.

lee- From what I've read and heard from people in the know, all Canadian Limiteds (in 99/00) had the rear heater, roof rack, sunroof, and locker standard. Those were all optional (but fairly common for the most part) in the US. I have some build sheets on 4Runners imported to the US and the only option that is rare of those was the locker- about 25% produced had it. But that's still a lot to choose from.

MTL_4runner- you bring up my number one concern. I wonder how easy it will be to service a Canadian 4Runner in the US- TSBs and such. The salesguy said that the 4Runner they had wasn't certified but that he would get it certified for me. At the time I didn't know it was a Canadian model- but I looked it up on Carfax. Granted, it has been here for several years, so obviously some service has been performed on it. Hell, if I can get a really good deal on it, I'll figure it out.

MTL_4runner · 01-20-2004, 07:23 AM

Andrew, I am sure you can get the vehicle serviced but it is the Factory Recalls and TSBs that may be a serious PITA. Definately use the VIN to check at the dealer when you buy a car to be sure if they are covered. Luckily 99's don't have the dreaded head gasket issue.

lee · 01-20-2004, 07:33 AM

the answer to this problem is pretty simple: go to a dealership / shop you trust and ask if they service canadian 4runners. if they say yes, tell the seller you want to take it to someone to get it inspected. take it to that person and if they check it over and you repeatedly ensure that they can indeed service this vehicle and they give it the OK, then youre all set.

right? :pig:

Andrew · 01-20-2004, 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by lee
the answer to this problem is pretty simple: go to a dealership / shop you trust and ask if they service canadian 4runners. if they say yes, tell the seller you want to take it to someone to get it inspected. take it to that person and if they check it over and you repeatedly ensure that they can indeed service this vehicle and they give it the OK, then youre all set.

right? :pig:

MTL_4runner- you've hit my concern exactly. TSBs and recalls. I know there were a few TSBs on the 99 and 00s (especially that fuel guage one, that always drove me nuts on my 00 until they issued it!)

lee- Good idea. I never thought to just "ask" my dealership!

I'm going to call and ask them now. Unfortunately the vehicle is located about 250 miles away, so I can't just got have a peek at it or take it to my local dealership. But if my dealership will service it, it's good with me.

andrew

lee · 01-20-2004, 07:54 AM

250 miles huh.. wow. id call another dealership in the area and pretend you want to bring it to them for service in the future and carry on the way i indicated. if a shop or dealer in the area OKs the truck, youre all set.

i dont know how id feel about asking a dealer without them looking at the truck.. theyd probably just think 'yea, whats the difference?'

youd be surprised how uninformed they can be as well! :pat:

01-19-2004, 09:14 PM	#2 (permalink)
Brendan Contributing Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 2,117	AFAIK, here in Canada, the e-locker only came if you bought the optional TRD package __________________ 1992 "Truck" 1978 Land Cruiser FJ40 pig and elephant DNA just won't splice :( *DO NOT CLICK HERE*

01-19-2004, 09:59 PM	#7 (permalink)
BigJohn Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Vancouver B.C. Posts: 270	heh i have the rare badlands model they have sweet bucket seats in them alot better then sr5 seats, i know that mine has a windshield washer fluid low symbol i dont think us models have this, Mine also comes with a whip attena i dont think any us models have this __________________ 2002 4runner - Mods - Dynomax exhaust, Airbox/amsoil. Piaa Extreme White 2 inch driving lights, Nokian Vativas, mickey thompson wheels

01-19-2004, 10:10 PM	#8 (permalink)
914runner Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Tigard, Oregon Posts: 2,083	i found this "badlands" 4runner while searching "badlands 4runner" in google. it looks alot like BigJohn's rig! __________________ 1997 Toyota 4Runner, 3.4L (5VZ-FE), 5-Speed (R150F), 4WD, 4.10's, 33's 1998 Toyota 4Runner, 3.4L (5VZ-FE), 5-Speed (R150F), 4WD, 4.10's, 33's 1991 Toyota 4Runner 4 Door, 3.4l (5VZ-FE), 5-Speed (R150F), 4WD, 32's, 4.10's

01-20-2004, 07:12 AM	#11 (permalink)
Andrew Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Indiana Territory Posts: 132	Interesting, thanks for the responses everyone. jruz- What? You don't believe everything you read on the internet? You might not recognize my name on this forum, as I sold my 4Runner just before YotaTech arrived, but I've been around in the 4Runner community for a while. I have some Canadian brochures (which aren't terribly specific, but they do give the models and the options- just not the technical details like what BigJohn mentioned) and I've spoken to some Candians. While it's possible that there was a TRD version, I'm pretty sure I would have heard of it by now. My guess is that any 4Runner in Canada that says TRD is a dealership special or done up by a 4Runner enthusiast. I don't mean to come off like a snob and I applogize if I've offended, but on this one I'm certain there was no TRD version. We definitely would have made a big stink about it here in the US if we had been denied the TRD version. BigJohn- I agree with you on the Badlands seats! When I lived in Texas, I considered trading my '00 for an '02 Badlands- a dealership in San Antonio had purchased a BUNCH of them with less than 500 miles each. I went down and had a look at them... seats were much plusher. I liked the steel rims, too. Your mention of the washer fluid low light turned on a lightbulb somewhere WAY back in my head... I wonder if all models of the 4Runners had that? It might be a requirement in Canada. lee- From what I've read and heard from people in the know, all Canadian Limiteds (in 99/00) had the rear heater, roof rack, sunroof, and locker standard. Those were all optional (but fairly common for the most part) in the US. I have some build sheets on 4Runners imported to the US and the only option that is rare of those was the locker- about 25% produced had it. But that's still a lot to choose from. MTL_4runner- you bring up my number one concern. I wonder how easy it will be to service a Canadian 4Runner in the US- TSBs and such. The salesguy said that the 4Runner they had wasn't certified but that he would get it certified for me. At the time I didn't know it was a Canadian model- but I looked it up on Carfax. Granted, it has been here for several years, so obviously some service has been performed on it. Hell, if I can get a really good deal on it, I'll figure it out. __________________ How do you like them apples? Previously owned a 4Runner Limited 4WD... now I own a Grand Cherokee 4WD... Flame On! ;)

01-20-2004, 07:23 AM	#12 (permalink)
MTL_4runner Contributing Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Montreal, QC Canada Posts: 8,807	Andrew, I am sure you can get the vehicle serviced but it is the Factory Recalls and TSBs that may be a serious PITA. Definately use the VIN to check at the dealer when you buy a car to be sure if they are covered. Luckily 99's don't have the dreaded head gasket issue. __________________ - Jamie 1996 4Runner SR5 4X4 Auto Deckplate Mod, Hayden Tranny Cooler, Amsoil Air Filter, OME 881/906 N86C/N91SC Lift Best OBD II scan tool I have used!. .....and I am AMERICAN!

01-20-2004, 05:43 AM	#9 (permalink)
lee Contributing Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: boston, ma Posts: 6,756	http://autonet.ca/EdmontonDrive/Stor...m?storyID=4297 i dont know for sure, but my understanding from talking to various canadian friends is that they had less options -- most of their runners came fully loaded... base sr5s are very hard to find up there, apparently. very few 2wds as well.

01-20-2004, 07:33 AM	#13 (permalink)
lee Contributing Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: boston, ma Posts: 6,756	the answer to this problem is pretty simple: go to a dealership / shop you trust and ask if they service canadian 4runners. if they say yes, tell the seller you want to take it to someone to get it inspected. take it to that person and if they check it over and you repeatedly ensure that they can indeed service this vehicle and they give it the OK, then youre all set. right? :pig:

01-20-2004, 07:54 AM	#15 (permalink)
lee Contributing Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: boston, ma Posts: 6,756	250 miles huh.. wow. id call another dealership in the area and pretend you want to bring it to them for service in the future and carry on the way i indicated. if a shop or dealer in the area OKs the truck, youre all set. i dont know how id feel about asking a dealer without them looking at the truck.. theyd probably just think 'yea, whats the difference?' youd be surprised how uninformed they can be as well! :pat:

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